To JKDChick

[JKDChick]

Uh, just a little warning. I really don't want a thread about my sex life at the moment, so if this turns into a cyber-fuck-fest, I'll lock it.

But I do thank everyone who's reacted positively to me ranting and bragging. For the record, I'm not tough. I just love fighting, and training.

[masterfinger]

Kudos on your rant over at E-Budo JKDC. Your emasculation of Phat Phuck Phil through your own accomplishments is outfuckingstanding.

Franco

[Lampa]

Uh, just a little warning. I really don't want a thread about my sex life at the moment, so if this turns into a cyber-fuck-fest, I'll lock it.

Yeah, that's my fault. I just wanted to bring Red Sonja into this.

But, before you threaten to lock me girl, remember, I have fought 170 men. Only one has survived and he has no legs.

[MrAndrewV]

yes and no

Lo.

Firstly I must say 'respec' for your highly personal, well thought out and emotionally charged post. You got balls JKD, and I don't care who knows it :occasion1

But I have to ask: why in god's name did you keep training on a broken rib?

The reason why I ask is because it links to a realisation that I had quite recently.

Last year I sprained my ankle quite badly. I got it looked after by those who know about such things but I just missed training so much that I came back before I was supposed to. Also I tried to come back in with the same leve of drive and commitment that I'd had when I left. :5dunce:

The result was that I fucked up my ankle again, properly this time. Now 18 months later I'm still struggling with it. I am back in training and I've just passed my latest grading (barely) but things would have been so much better if I had just listened to what my body was telling me the first time around.

In our class we have a motto: if you start to bleed, stop doing what your doing.

The point is that there are two ways of pushing yourself: there is pushing yourself to build yourself up and there is pushing yourself that just breaks you down. At the point where you start bleeding you are not promoting growth you are just dealing damage.

Now naturally there are points where you keep going in spite of blood or pain or whatever (gradings, initiations, special training sessions, actual fights etc). But in those situations you accept that you are dealng damage to your body for a greater cause that has nothing to do with gaining strength.

Now the problem is that most people don't push themselves so an important part of MA is teaching you to break through our sociallr-constructed ideas of what our limits are. But beyond that there is another level. If you keep pushing yourself you will eventually come to a point where you can break yourself just by pushing too hard.

I have done so many squats that I was unable to walk (actually unable to walk) and I had to get some heavy, prescription anti-inflammatories to set me right.
I have done so many push ups that I pulled a muscle in my arm and couldnt do any for months.

It has taken me 3 injuries to learn that there IS a thing is pushing yourself too hard.

I'm not saying that you necessarily push yourself too hard but I am interested to know what you guys think.

Can you traing too hard?

ciao

[Kinzei]

Great post on e-budo! That which does not kil us makes us stronger.

[lawdog]

The point is that there are two ways of pushing yourself: there is pushing yourself to build yourself up and there is pushing yourself that just breaks you down. At the point where you start bleeding you are not promoting growth you are just dealing damage.

You must distinguish between the physical and mental. A certain amount of physical "damage" is necessary to increase mental toughness.

[Ronin]

You must distinguish between the physical and mental. A certain amount of physical "damage" is necessary to increase mental toughness.

Bingo.

[Ronin]

Lo.

Firstly I must say 'respec' for your highly personal, well thought out and emotionally charged post. You got balls JKD, and I don't care who knows it :occasion1

But I have to ask: why in god's name did you keep training on a broken rib?

The reason why I ask is because it links to a realisation that I had quite recently.

Last year I sprained my ankle quite badly. I got it looked after by those who know about such things but I just missed training so much that I came back before I was supposed to. Also I tried to come back in with the same leve of drive and commitment that I'd had when I left. :5dunce:

The result was that I fucked up my ankle again, properly this time. Now 18 months later I'm still struggling with it. I am back in training and I've just passed my latest grading (barely) but things would have been so much better if I had just listened to what my body was telling me the first time around.

In our class we have a motto: if you start to bleed, stop doing what your doing.

The point is that there are two ways of pushing yourself: there is pushing yourself to build yourself up and there is pushing yourself that just breaks you down. At the point where you start bleeding you are not promoting growth you are just dealing damage.

Now naturally there are points where you keep going in spite of blood or pain or whatever (gradings, initiations, special training sessions, actual fights etc). But in those situations you accept that you are dealng damage to your body for a greater cause that has nothing to do with gaining strength.

Now the problem is that most people don't push themselves so an important part of MA is teaching you to break through our sociallr-constructed ideas of what our limits are. But beyond that there is another level. If you keep pushing yourself you will eventually come to a point where you can break yourself just by pushing too hard.

I have done so many squats that I was unable to walk (actually unable to walk) and I had to get some heavy, prescription anti-inflammatories to set me right.
I have done so many push ups that I pulled a muscle in my arm and couldnt do any for months.

It has taken me 3 injuries to learn that there IS a thing is pushing yourself too hard.

I'm not saying that you necessarily push yourself too hard but I am interested to know what you guys think.

Can you traing too hard?

ciao

Yes you can train too hard, but only YOU can be the judge of that.
One persons "too hard" is another persons 'warm up" so...
I can't even begin to recall the types of injuries I have had, when I was younger, heck even nowadays its rare the day I workout WITHOUT some pain here or there.
JKDChick trained because she was able to train and foro her, THAT is the measuring stick.
Heck I remeber a sensei tellign me, if you can walk, you can train.

Probs for the toughness JKDChick :occasion1

[afronaut]

Phil has been JKDealt with.

All hail the queen.

[Hannibal]

Well said JKD Chick.

Real martial arts hurts. Thats the reality of it. Many people don't wish to see it that way and there are far too many martial arts schools who hand out rank like free chocolate samples - this only adds to the problem. But we shouldn't let it bother us. I simply do not care about rank,politics and style anymore. I've met good fighters in many arts.

The best way is just to turn up to training, learn and fight hard. Aiming to improve by every passing lesson. If you've got it where it counts - your training partners will know this and respect you for it no matter where you train.

But JKDChick what could you have done to make you get thrown out of your dojo ?
And which dojo ? Your JKD one or your BJJ one ?

[xingyifa]

I don't know about you guys, but I plan on being healthy enough to train fourty years from now. I'm not sure where the line is on what's "too hard" but i know you can only be uber hardcore for so long...who wants to be a vegetable like mohammed ali or have crippling arthritis for the last 30 years of their life?

[JKDChick]

Same gym for both. It was personality conflicts, hence the emotional pain. It's dealt with, these days.

Wow, I really expected to get TRASHED for that post. It reads like e-cock-waving to me.

[Castel]

You want to leave your school? Do it. Just go. Don't make whiny, patheitc excuses. Don't complain that the training's gotten too HARD or something. Be a man.

Well,isnt someone wearing their ovaries on the outside :laughing6

[JKDChick]

I could be wearing YOUR testicles, if that would be better.

*snicker*

[EternalRage]

Wow I see we have infiltrated ebudo quite heavily.