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  • Striker1976
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    Originally posted by lightninghands
    know your history bro, wing chun was based off the animal styles. bong sao is a crane, fook sao, and lap sao are mantis, biu jee is from snake.

    its just an art of principles.
    after visiting the sites of both of those schools. i wouldnt train in either. the wing chun one had a bunch of guys in japanese gi's, (not the chinese uniforms, mc chun look a like)
    and the mantis school is probly gonna waste your time too. agreed that too much tradition and political ettiquette will waste your time. you need to find other schools!!

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  • Mr.Miyagi
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    That mantis school is pretty much hard core traditional southern mantis. Rarr!

    Ativa gym is cool, great instruction and a good environment! I just have to wait for it to fit into my time table again. *cries*

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  • lightninghands
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    Originally posted by wingchunnewbie
    Wing Chun teaches footwork and kicks. Wing Chun incorporates sweeps and throws. Wing Chun _doesn't_ include any 'animal style' movements.
    know your history bro, wing chun was based off the animal styles. bong sao is a crane, fook sao, and lap sao are mantis, biu jee is from snake.

    its just an art of principles.
    after visiting the sites of both of those schools. i wouldnt train in either. the wing chun one had a bunch of guys in japanese gi's, (not the chinese uniforms, mc chun look a like)
    and the mantis school is probly gonna waste your time too. agreed that too much tradition and political ettiquette will waste your time. you need to find other schools!!

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  • Jolly_Roger
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    Originally posted by Colin
    Prodigal.. BOXING.. LEARN WESTERN BOXING...

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  • SamuraiAssassin
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    Originally posted by Mr_Mantis
    Prodigal, I would not waste my time with wing chun. Wing chun is limited. They tout this impervious blocking system, but truth be told, they don't have low gate blocking. What low gate blocking they do have is not wing chun.

    In my opinion, Wing Chun is an inferior CMA, is not even a complete striking art and you are likely to be bullshitted into believing that you can kick people's asses.

    Wow you need to do your home work and really learn WC because it is very effective in low line techniques and very practical ones at that. We block with legs Chi gerk or ji tek would be the techniques.

    My advice is do wing chun but be very picky, I understand alot of what people are saying, there are many watered down schools and people that would blow smoke up your ass. My own thoughts are that you will find that true of many schools in other arts. You should always do your due diligence before entering any type of investments.

    To make a long story short we block low line with legs and as for blocking it is more like redirection, but block if need be.

    I would not take to heart what many people say in here about WC most have probably never took it and think BJJ or JJ is the tell all and.

    WC will help develope your hand speed, sensitivity, reaction. Their motions are direct and rely on straight line concepts. It would do good to take these in and make them your own. Hooks are incorporated but are used in certain situations, all power punches should never be thrown out completely.

    There are many apsects to fighting i.e. punching, kicking, trapping and grappling. Learn them all they all have their place. JJ only goes so far, and depends on the constraints to the situation, in a head up fight taking place in an open area... def go for it. JJ can be very effective. If you are in an area where you are not sure what is going on i.e. a bar parking lot, bar or club...Punching, trapping and kicking may be your best bet.

    Choice is yours but I cross train and I am telling you that WC is very effective when it is taught right.

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  • Mr.Miyagi
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    Bump: New site. www.advancemartialarts.com.au Im gonna check it out. Hopefully going to be able to attend the Bjj and kickboxing class on wednesday night, and MMA class on sat and free matt time on sat as well woot! Check it out.

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  • Mr.Miyagi
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    That sounds pretty interesting... here is the site http://www.ativa.com.au/

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  • wingchunnewbie
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    Originally posted by drummerboy
    I remember that clip. It will not help your cause. A tall guy doing an almost slow motion axe kick, and the short WC guy doing a karate high block knocking the tall guy off ballance.

    Tomas
    It was as Wing Chun practitioner. The tall guy lost. He wasn't wing chun. That's good enough for me.

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  • prodigal
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    That sounds like pretty darn good advice lukster, think I may just do that.

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  • philby909090
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    I hear that combat centres place is good. They also teach BJJ and kickboxing there.

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  • dramaboy
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    Originally posted by wingchunnewbie
    I think he was referring to me. People's attitude to WC won't change until they see clips of a WC guy winning a recorded fight against a tough opponent who's got training in one of the more respected MAs. Which is fair enough as the only hosted clips in downloads show WC people getting the crap beaten out of them.

    There's a clip mentioned in a couple of other threads of a WC guy beating some big guy from another style who throws an axe-kick at him in a tournament. I will try and search and get the link when I have more time.
    I remember that clip. It will not help your cause. A tall guy doing an almost slow motion axe kick, and the short WC guy doing a karate high block knocking the tall guy off ballance.

    Tomas

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  • wingchunnewbie
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    Originally posted by WingChun Lawyer
    You called me?
    I think he was referring to me. People's attitude to WC won't change until they see clips of a WC guy winning a recorded fight against a tough opponent who's got training in one of the more respected MAs. Which is fair enough as the only hosted clips in downloads show WC people getting the crap beaten out of them.

    There's a clip mentioned in a couple of other threads of a WC guy beating some big guy from another style who throws an axe-kick at him in a tournament. I will try and search and get the link when I have more time.

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  • WingChun Lawyer
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    Originally posted by Preacher Man
    WCN, dont you sometimes wish people would actually learn a bit about WC before slating it?
    You called me?

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  • MrMcFu
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    Originally posted by Boyd
    Please don't insult grappling by implying that standing a foot away and slapping each other's forearms is 'grappling'. You're making it cry.
    Don't you know the Chi-sau is a THINKING man's pummelling drill and is a simple, yet natural application of the instrincally powerful principles.

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