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    #2
    Query: Why do many Korean's have to reek of garlic, don't they understand how unpleasant their body odor is to the rest of humanity?

    Kungfoolss, Scourge of the theory-based stylists, Most Feared man at Mcdojo.com, and the Preeminent Force in the martial arts political arena

    http://forums.delphiforums.com/testing12345703/start
    Kungfoolss, Scourge of the theory-based stylists, Most Feared man at Bullshido.com, and the Preeminent Force in the martial arts political arena

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      #3
      Goodness me, Kungfoolss, you are an asshole, aren't you?

      "I'm not tense; just terribly, terribly alert."

      Edited by - JKDChick on December 07 2002 00:36:04
      Monkey Ninjas! Attack!

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        #4
        I'll take blatant racism for twenty please Bob....

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          #5
          Damn, thanks for the unfound scientific discovery.
          Maybe you want to go to some other type of forum to discuss this.

          "said and done"

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            #6
            Normally, I'd say I was grappling, but I was taking down and mounting people, and JFS has kindly informed us that takedowns and being mounted are neither grappling nor anti grappling, so I'm not sure what the fuck I was doing. Maybe schroedinger's sparring, where it's neither grappling nor anti-grappling until somoene observes it and collapses the waveform, and then I RNC a cat to death.----fatherdog

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              #7
              You know, I defended Kungfoolss on another thread (where I also pointed out that calling in air strikes is not a martial art). Now that I've gotten to know a little more about him, I think I'll just be ignoring him from now on. I don't think Koreans smell like garlic. Maybe living in Seoul for a year and half wasn't enough exposure. I'm sure he knows a lot more about Koreans than I do.
              Normally, I'd say I was grappling, but I was taking down and mounting people, and JFS has kindly informed us that takedowns and being mounted are neither grappling nor anti grappling, so I'm not sure what the fuck I was doing. Maybe schroedinger's sparring, where it's neither grappling nor anti-grappling until somoene observes it and collapses the waveform, and then I RNC a cat to death.----fatherdog

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                #8
                Ok, it just says Mcdojo is a site where martial artists can discuss theirs arts.....I was hoping that the koreans where upset with the constant bashing of tkd, and they were planning to come and kick all our ass. Maybe they were going to show us some "real" TKD, the stuff no one knows about but exists in a few remote places in the world.

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                  #9
                  Actually most Koreans I know think Tae Kwon Do is pretty useless, impractical and a Japanese import to boot. They like winning gold medals in the sport, though. Other than that, only kids in Korea even bother. There's a great scene in a great movie called "Cheat King". A guy is tormented by his boss, who is constantly putting him into headlocks. He goes to a TKD school and is met by an instructor in a NECK BRACE! He asks the guy how to break a headlock. The guy is teetering around in the brace and shows him all these ridiculous things that hinge on avoiding the lock entirely and kicking the guy in the head. When he persists, the TKD guy lets him put him in a headlock and then complains it's too tight. Great movie.
                  Normally, I'd say I was grappling, but I was taking down and mounting people, and JFS has kindly informed us that takedowns and being mounted are neither grappling nor anti grappling, so I'm not sure what the fuck I was doing. Maybe schroedinger's sparring, where it's neither grappling nor anti-grappling until somoene observes it and collapses the waveform, and then I RNC a cat to death.----fatherdog

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                    #10
                    HAHAHA!! LOL! That sounds like a good movie, I'll have to see if I can find that one.

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                      #11
                      It's Korean and the title is Banchik Wang. You can get it from dvdasian.com
                      Normally, I'd say I was grappling, but I was taking down and mounting people, and JFS has kindly informed us that takedowns and being mounted are neither grappling nor anti grappling, so I'm not sure what the fuck I was doing. Maybe schroedinger's sparring, where it's neither grappling nor anti-grappling until somoene observes it and collapses the waveform, and then I RNC a cat to death.----fatherdog

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                          #13
                          Hello everyone,

                          After WWII, Chinese Chuan-fa was introduced into Korea, and the Koreans called it by the Korean translation, "Kwon Bup." That name was really only used for a short time in Korea, as most schools preferred to call their arts either "Kong Soo Do" or "Tang Soo Do," - before the name, "Taekwondo" was adopted.

                          The Wastrel is correct about "kwon bup" not being originally Korean.

                          The same thing in Japanese would be translated as, "Kempo."

                          R. McLain

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                            #14
                            Well, having dabbled in Mandarain Chinese, I was aware that Chuan-Fa and Gwon Bob correspond to the same Chinese characters. Whether or not Gwon Bob ever referred to Chinese Chuan Fa is another matter entirely. If you say it did, I believe you. Today it's used with modifiers to indicate all different forms of unarmed fighting. So they would say Jungguk ay Gwon Bob (Chinese Martial Arts) or Taeguk ay Gwon Bob (Thai). Gwon Bob carries the suggestion though of referring more specifically to fist based fighting like boxing. For arts that are more thoroughly rooted in ritual and tradition they use Musool.
                            Normally, I'd say I was grappling, but I was taking down and mounting people, and JFS has kindly informed us that takedowns and being mounted are neither grappling nor anti grappling, so I'm not sure what the fuck I was doing. Maybe schroedinger's sparring, where it's neither grappling nor anti-grappling until somoene observes it and collapses the waveform, and then I RNC a cat to death.----fatherdog

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                              #15
                              Hello Wastrel,

                              One of my senior Grandmasters, Byung In-Yoon, grew up in Manchuria, after his family fled the Japanese invasion in 1910. He was allowed to study Chuan-fa at a Shaolin temple near Shanghai, beginning in the 1920's. In the 1930's he traveled to Japan to study "Colonial Rule" at Nihon University. There he met and exchanged knowledge with Kanken Toyama at his school called, "Shudokan." Toyama sensei recognized Byung-In Yoon as a fourth dan, second only to Toyama at that time.

                              Byung_in Yoon returned to Korea at the end of WWII, and helped re-introduce martial arts into Korea, but he was the only one at that time teaching chuan-fa. The others were mostly karate. He prefered to call his art "Kwon Bup" or "Kwon Bup MuDo," to show his chuan-fa education.

                              One of Byung-In Yoon's students, Lee Nam-Sok founded the Chang Moo Kwan dojang, which was one of the five major dojangs in South Korea during the 1940's & 1950's. But, it was the only dojang with the Chinese Chuan-fa influence.

                              Luckily, my teacher did not give-in to the push to unify Korean martial arts under the banner of Taekwondo in the 1950's & 60's, and instead preserved the Chuan-fa techniques and forms, in addition to the karate of Toyama, even though there were lots of name calling and shouts of "traitor" for doing so.

                              R. McLain

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