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    Style means nothing!

    okay jerkies- here it comes just 5 seconds of JAMOKE being for real-

    why do you degenerates argue which style is the best?

    the fukking style means nothing in the street.

    its how good you fight for real, either you have the eye of the tiger or you dont

    NO style will make you tough or good, either you have it or you dont

    and yes even in the UFC style means SHIT, either you a tough mutha fukker or your a whimp.

    no style is the best, however they are all good!

    either you have the fighter instinct or you dont.

    this bullshit of my style is the best is bull fukkin shit

    i know people who never once took a day of karate chops suey and he can beat some serious mutha fukkin ass

    he'd kick ass anywhere

    karate means shit on the street

    You bunch of fukks!

    #2
    either you have the eye of the tiger or you dont
    Well, I guess I don't because I lost my tape of that song in the late 80's.

    Also, I believe your entire argument boils down to "It's the artist, not the art". I think that point has been made roughly 5 billion times on this board alone, with better spelling and less obscenity.

    You don't train, right?

    "I'm not tense; just terribly, terribly alert."
    Monkey Ninjas! Attack!

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      #3
      Royce Gracie is a skinny, unathletic guy who was soft spoken and didnt even look like he BELONGED in the ring.

      What experience are you making this call based on?
      "All warfare is based on deception." -Sun Tzu, ca. 400BC


      Reverse punch Kiaii!!!

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        #4
        please be more specific in your question peedee.

        JKD chick, your female, what else is there to say?

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          #5
          okay jerkies- here it comes just 5 seconds of JAMOKE being for real-

          why do you degenerates argue which style is the best?

          the fukking style means nothing in the street.
          No offense but is anyone else tired of people pontificating about "the street"?

          its how good you fight for real, either you have the eye of the tiger or you dont

          NO style will make you tough or good, either you have it or you dont
          Ok, so by that inerrant logic no amount of training will make you a better fighter. Since really the essence of learning a style is teaching your body to respond in ways different than it does naturally. But of course so is any form of physical training (weight lifting, punching a bag). Yet I would expect that even you would realize that some kind of training can help you in a "real" fight. Which is EXACTLY why it's worth discussing which kind of training is BEST (or best for a particular person/circumstance/etc...)

          no style is the best, however they are all good!
          So regardless of any physical evidence to the contrary. All styles are equal. *sigh* this is the line I hate most from martial artists. I understand sociologically how we want to respect other peoples traditions (and not everyone's goal in taking MA is to kick ass in 'the street'). Surely from a position of effectiveness *some* techniques MUST be better than others. Surely the level of cognitive dissonance in your average martial artist hasn't risen to the level that we don't believe that?

          i know people who never once took a day of karate chops suey and he can beat some serious mutha fukkin ass
          Which means...absolutely nothing. Since the argument you put forth was that "style means nothing". Who says that with some kind of formal training this "mutha" wouldn't be a better fighter? You are arguing from a position of ignorance.

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            #6
            Jamoke, yes, sweetie? What else is there to say?

            "I'm not tense; just terribly, terribly alert."
            Monkey Ninjas! Attack!

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              #7
              "You are arguing from a position of ignorance."

              and your experience is what?

              does TKD make you a good fighter, bag work? rolling around on the mat? training for what? well lets do this in case of that? this technique is deadly and will work in real life, so lets practice it?

              its not ignorance, its fact.

              if your a pussy you'll get killed. you cant make a tough guy out of a pussy!

              this is not about the PRACTINIONER! its about you and what your made of inside.

              can you tell me the difference between a TKD front kick and a kenpo front kick. fukks NO!

              you want to kid yourselves, go ahead. either you have the killer in you or ya dont!

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                #8
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                "Jamoke, yes, sweetie? What else is there to say?"

                whats your point JKDCHICK? huh, waste more fukking time. dont pull your feminazi shit with me.

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                  #9
                  lol...jamoke yer such a troll

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                    #10
                    "You are arguing from a position of ignorance."

                    and your experience is what?
                    I think you misunderstand. You are arguing from a position of ignorance about your tough-mutha-who-never-took-a-karate-lesson. You don't know that he wouldn't be better without training. This is what, in formal logic we call an "argument from ignorance"

                    does TKD make you a good fighter, bag work? rolling around on the mat? training for what? well lets do this in case of that? this technique is deadly and will work in real life, so lets practice it?
                    Is there a point in there somewhere? If so I don't see it.

                    Certianly some of those things can make you a BETTER fighter therefore your point is defeated (since training can improve your abilities therefore "style is SOMETHING") QED.

                    if your a pussy you'll get killed. you cant make a tough guy out of a pussy!
                    Why not? This is simply an assertion not an actual argument or are you simply defining "pussy" trivially?

                    this is not about the PRACTINIONER! its about you and what your made of inside.
                    *yawn* Boooorrrrriiinnngggg. All you've done now is backpedle to a position that states that there is some... "willpower" element to fighting. Which I'll agree with. However, that doesn't necessarily mean that your original statement "style is nothing" is defended.

                    can you tell me the difference between a TKD front kick and a kenpo front kick. fukks NO!
                    Irrelevant....there is a difference between a WT front kick and a TKD front kick though.

                    you want to kid yourselves, go ahead. either you have the killer in you or ya dont!
                    Again...this isn't an argument...simply an assertion. Want a good recipie for self-delusion? Keep talking just like that.

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                      #11
                      No, actually, I want to know what your point is. My gender is significant how? I mean, other than it makes it more humiliating for you to be jobbed by a chick.

                      Given that I am vocally pro-pornography, pro-prostitution, anti-equal rights inititive, pro-male how am I a feminazi? Because I act like the equal I wanted to be treated as?

                      You don't train, do you? Answer the question, puppy.

                      "I'm not tense; just terribly, terribly alert."

                      Edited by - JKDChick on December 06 2002 18:54:55
                      Monkey Ninjas! Attack!

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                        #12
                        Wait sarkeizen you seem to think that practicing hitting and being hit will some how teach you something. That's as impossible as running a lot making you a better runner.

                        Also fyi trying to pose logical arguments and getting point by point rebuttals and coherent discussion doesn't appear to happen much on this board. Then again neither does a spellcheck.

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                          #13
                          "You don't train, do you? Answer the question, puppy"

                          wheather i train or not is of no importance.

                          but i do know that martial arts training will not win you anything in the street!

                          "I mean, other than it makes it more humiliating for you to be jobbed by a chick."

                          "Given that I am vocally pro-pornography, pro-prostitution, anti-equal rights inititive, pro-male how am I a feminazi? Because I act like the equal I wanted to be treated as?"

                          okay, fine i will treat you like i treat everybody else who is a wise ass to me. your a fukking douche bag! happy now?

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                            #14
                            Wait sarkeizen you seem to think that practicing hitting and being hit will some how teach you something. That's as impossible as running a lot making you a better runner.
                            *slapshisforehead* What was I thinking...obviously this is achived by "thinking like a runner" or having the "left-paw of the cheeta" or some other Christian Science-style crap.

                            Also fyi trying to pose logical arguments and getting point by point rebuttals and coherent discussion doesn't appear to happen much on this board.
                            ...or on the rest of the internet for that matter :) but there's some value in arguing with those who have no intent to approach the issue rationally. Similar to punching a wallback...you may never move the wall but you can still get better at hitting it. :)

                            Logic is Kung-Fu for the mind!

                            Then again neither does a spellcheck.


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                              #15
                              Deepest apologies for the lousy spelling and formatting in my last post....I got distracted by work. :)

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