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    #61
    Originally posted by Michael Tzadok View Post
    No it is not a foregone conclusion. There is very different psychology between pedophilia and the paraphilia that would lead an older man to assault a young, but post pubescent child.
    Pedophilia is a specific type of paraphilia, and the charges/conviction in this case involves a child 14 or younger, reducing the chance considerably that the child was significantly post pubescent. It's possible we're talking a child literally going through puberty, but even being attracted to a 13 or 14 year old is close enough to pedophilia for practical purposes. It's definitely paraphilia.

    Key word in the statute is "child". The Nebraska law makes no differentiation on the state of puberty. For all intents and purposes, it's safe to safe Jeffrey was sexually attracted to, and sexually assaulted, a child.

    I'd ask to see your psychology degree credentials to quantify your idea of "very different", but I don't rely on parlor tricks like throwing authority around, as I hope you're beginning to learn.
    '�I am no advocate of passivity,� Coffin Mott said in an 1860 speech. �Quakerism, as I understand it, does not mean quietism. The early Friends were agitators; disturbers of the peace; and were more obnoxious in their day to charges, which are now so freely made, than we are.�'

    My Glossary: https://www.bullshido.net/forums/sho...d.php?t=129294

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      #62
      Interesting post. In most states when the term 'child', is used to describe a victim , it means under a certain age, the lower end, and when the term 'minor' is used to describe the victim, it means the upper end, of the age range. For example, assault of a child in the 2nd degree, would be an assault, causing grievous bodily harm, against a person under 12 years of age. Assault of a minor in the 2nd degree, would be an assault, causing grievous bodily harm, against a person between the ages of 12-17. The same terminology is used for sex offenses too.

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        #63
        Originally posted by supachenko View Post
        Interesting post. In most states when the term 'child', is used to describe a victim , it means under a certain age, the lower end, and when the term 'minor' is used to describe the victim, it means the upper end, of the age range. For example, assault of a child in the 2nd degree, would be an assault, causing grievous bodily harm, against a person under 12 years of age. Assault of a minor in the 2nd degree, would be an assault, causing grievous bodily harm, against a person between the ages of 12-17. The same terminology is used for sex offenses too.
        Thanks for that .

        The line between 11/12/13 of course being paper thin so it really doesn’t help much.

        If there was a simple innocent explanation for all this we would have had it by now.
        King without a crown

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          #64
          Minors in Nebraska are defined as anybody under 19, unless they get married.
          http://www.nebraskalegislature.gov/l...tatute=43-2101

          The convictions in this case are definitely of someone 14 or younger, but it's worth noting intercourse doesn't seem to have occurred, otherwise it would have been a first degree conviction, and the age ranges from 12-16. So having actual sex with a 16 year old in NE is still classified in the statutes as a crime against a minor "child".

          The convictions could even stem from something like kissing or fondling. Any form of non-intercourse "contact" with a 14 year old would probably qualify.

          (5) Sexual contact means the intentional touching of the victim's sexual or intimate parts or the intentional touching of the victim's clothing covering the immediate area of the victim's sexual or intimate parts. Sexual contact shall also mean the touching by the victim of the actor's sexual or intimate parts or the clothing covering the immediate area of the actor's sexual or intimate parts when such touching is intentionally caused by the actor. Sexual contact shall include only such conduct which can be reasonably construed as being for the purpose of sexual arousal or gratification of either party. Sexual contact shall also include the touching of a child with the actor's sexual or intimate parts on any part of the child's body for purposes of sexual assault of a child under sections 28-319.01 and 28-320.01;
          '�I am no advocate of passivity,� Coffin Mott said in an 1860 speech. �Quakerism, as I understand it, does not mean quietism. The early Friends were agitators; disturbers of the peace; and were more obnoxious in their day to charges, which are now so freely made, than we are.�'

          My Glossary: https://www.bullshido.net/forums/sho...d.php?t=129294

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