Rigan Machado knowingly promotes convicted rapist to BJJ black belt

[It is Fake]

Oops, on the down vote. Good points.

LOL. We're even, I hit the upvote and screwed up as well.

[Michael Tzadok]

Mikal, the owner of Aces, is an acquaintance of mine and I'd be surprised if he hadn't heard about Paul from the last time.

Is there a possibility you could reach out to him for a quote considering you already have an established relationship, and so he may feel less threatened then if a random person contacts him.

I really want to know how deep this rabbit hole goes.

[Raycetpfl]

Then we can argue the 2 point no KO rule was put in place because of this loss. Don't turn this into an art or rules debate, take it into another thread.

Oops, on the down vote. Good points.

[Raycetpfl]

Then we can argue the 2 point no KO rule was put in place because of this loss. Don't turn this into an art or rules debate, take it into another thread.

Fair enough

[jitschix]

Mikal, the owner of Aces, is an acquaintance of mine and I'd be surprised if he hadn't heard about Paul from the last time.

[Dr. Gonzo]

Paul Saucido's bio on his personal website contains two very important items of note: he's still claiming to have earned a blackbelt, and he claims he's no longer affiliated with Zen Fit.

He made both those changes to his bio just within the last 4 days according to https://web.archive.org/web/20170325...ido.com/about/. The last sentence about leaving Zen Fit, and the part about a 12 year road to BB were just added, since Wayback's last cache (March 25th, 2017)

If that's true, Paul made the correct decision for his school and the community. But....he's still claimin' that Machado black belt.

Talk about a juxtaposition on where to throw the shade.

http://www.paulsaucido.com/about/

March 29th version:


March 25th, 2017 version:

Good find. And well cited.

[Pship Destroyer]

Paul Saucido's bio on his personal website contains two very important items of note: he's still claiming to have earned a blackbelt, and he claims he's no longer affiliated with Zen Fit.

He made both those changes to his bio just within the last 4 days according to https://web.archive.org/web/20170325...ido.com/about/. The last sentence about leaving Zen Fit, and the part about a 12 year road to BB were just added, since Wayback's last cache (March 25th, 2017)

If that's true, Paul made the correct decision for his school and the community. But....he's still claimin' that Machado black belt.

Talk about a juxtaposition on where to throw the shade.

http://www.paulsaucido.com/about/

March 29th version:


March 25th, 2017 version:

[It is Fake]

Not for a bjj player or mma fighter really..... it's only 2 points in bjj, if they are still awake after its over.

Then we can argue the 2 point no KO rule was put in place because of this loss. Don't turn this into an art or rules debate, take it into another thread.

[Pship Destroyer]

I see your objection for relevance.

I raise you: Establishing pattern of conduct.

I.E. Rigan has been deceptive with his record. He may be deceptive about other things as well.

Though I will agree that the focus should be and remain narrowed on Rigan.

Rigan's endorsement of Systema. Rigan's inflating of his record and erasure of legitimate and recorded losses, establish a pattern of behavior in which it appears he is willing to forgo morality and honesty to make a buck.

Speculation without evidence should be left to YMAS, along with Rigan inflating his record, win/loss ratio, previous patterns of behavior, and capitalistic aims.

Let's keep this thread specific to the subject matter, predatorial threats and their enablers.

With evidence, cuz MABS, and not so much mental masturbation. Wasn't that why you created the other thread?

[Raycetpfl]

As you know, those Brazilians are kryptonite for many...

That's what I hear..........

[BKR]

Rigan beat Ron Tripp in sambo.

Ron Tripp was a skilled grappler, but by no means unbeatable (in Judo at least, I watched him compete quite a bit "back in the day"). He also was and I suppose is a very funny guy, as in sense of humor.

That he could lose a Sombo match to another highly skilled grappler is not surprising to me at all.

As you know, those Brazilians are kryptonite for many...

[Michael Tzadok]

You guys are derailing a MABS thread entitled "Rigan Machado knowingly promotes convicted rapist to BJJ black belt".

You should know better. Nobody reading this thread cares about Rigan Machado's record or martial arts abilities. I want to downvote you all sooo badly, but I'll hold my vengeance for another moment or two.

Go post that in the YMAS thread, dawgs. Better yet, admins can we move the shitposting about skillz over there? http://www.bullshido.net/forums/showthread.php?t=126544

Thanks, as always.

I see your objection for relevance.

I raise you: Establishing pattern of conduct.

I.E. Rigan has been deceptive with his record. He may be deceptive about other things as well.

Though I will agree that the focus should be and remain narrowed on Rigan.

Rigan's endorsement of Systema. Rigan's inflating of his record and erasure of legitimate and recorded losses, establish a pattern of behavior in which it appears he is willing to forgo morality and honesty to make a buck.

[Raycetpfl]

Whether you knew absolute victory existed or not, getting tossed into an absolute victory is being hands down manhandled by your opponent. .

Not for a bjj player or mma fighter really..... it's only 2 points in bjj, if they are still awake after its over.

[Pship Destroyer]

You guys are derailing a MABS thread entitled "Rigan Machado knowingly promotes convicted rapist to BJJ black belt".

You should know better. Nobody reading this thread cares about Rigan Machado's record or martial arts abilities. I want to downvote you all sooo badly, but I'll hold my vengeance for another moment or two.

Go post that in the YMAS thread, dawgs. Better yet, admins can we move the shitposting about skillz over there? http://www.bullshido.net/forums/showthread.php?t=126544

Thanks, as always.

[Raycetpfl]

In the case of his loss to Ron Tripp, I think Mark Tripp (here and other places) explained that particular loss (to Ron Tripp in Sombo).

As I recall, Rickson went for a Kosoto Gari (probably on Ron's lead leg, and I call him Ron because I'm acquainted with him, but not for many years), which, as an experienced grappler, you know it not generally a good idea. Ron countered with a spectacular Uchi Mata for the "total victory".

As far as relative skill goes back then, I would have bet on Rickson winning a pure submission only rules match, and probably a IBJJF-type rules event. Ron was I believe a D-1 wrestler and I know a skilled judoka, so was a highly skilled grappler without a doubt.

Rigan beat Ron Tripp in sambo.