Rigan Machado knowingly promotes convicted rapist to BJJ black belt

[Raycetpfl]

If you feel that qualifies for noodles, I'll gladly pay up.

The note did stress they were separate, so I will yield the point.

I am not sure where that puts us on the noodles. While she did say this..... Carlos hasn't officially released a statement saying Rigan isn't part of their crew,but why would he? He hasn't been for a while. Your bet was properly hedged I suppose. The noodles are a push as of now. No payout needed on either side.

[jitschix]

New post from bjjee including some of the photos we've already seen here. Damn, I missed the scoop!

http://www.bjjee.com/articles/photo-...gship-academy/

[Michael Tzadok]

New post from bjjee including some of the photos we've already seen here. Damn, I missed the scoop!

http://www.bjjee.com/articles/photo-...gship-academy/

I was just coming on here to post that. They are very clearly calling BS on Rigan.

Honestly, while I find it bad that Rigan would train and promote a convicted sex offender. I find it far worse that Rigan would lie about it. To me that means he isn't taking a stance on redemption and reform, but rather that he knows what he is doing is wrong and is doing it anyway, but thinks he can wave a hand make a blithe statement and not have to face up to it.

[ChenPengFi]

Do I need to point out the obvious, that facebook share dates etc are not indicative of when a picture was taken?
Seems sloppy all around.
Public statements be damned, despite "hinky-ness"?

[ChenPengFi]

Seems to me that if there weren't other issues here, the conclusion would be "Stfu, you're not a BJJ BB."

[ChenPengFi]

Also, presumption of innocence is white knighting now?
Hahahaha...
Ok.

[Michael Tzadok]

Do I need to point out the obvious, that facebook share dates etc are not indicative of when a picture was taken?
Seems sloppy all around.
Public statements be damned, despite "hinky-ness"?

I thought about the possibility of it being a long con by Saucido. If it were just pics of him hanging with Rigan I would even consider that to be the most likely solution. The killer for me were the pics of him with a BJJ black belt tied around his waist with other Rigan Black Belts in Rigan's dojo.

That with two news sources(Georgette and BJJEE) saying that they have received complaints from Rigan students that want to remain anonymous that Saucido has even filled in for Rigan while Rigan was away. Those bits are the most damning for me.

[Michael Tzadok]

Also, presumption of innocence is white knighting now?
Hahahaha...
Ok.

Presumption of innocence isn't white knighting. Saying that Rigan can do no wrong because Rigan is white knighting.

Rigan says junior black belts are a good thing, must be right because Rigan
Rigan says Systema is solid and should be learned to better your BJJ, must be right becasue Rigan.
Rigan has a no sparring training system, no problem because Rigan
Rigan gives Kutcher an accelerated Purple Belt, and claims that despite not sparring he can beat 2 Division UFC champion and BJJ Brown belt Connor Mcgregor, that's ok too because Rigan
Rigan said four years ago he ended all contacts with this guy, and I won't believe anything else until Rigan himself admits it becasue Rigan...

That my friend is not presumption of innocence. That is white knighting at best and down right cultish at worst.

[Pship Destroyer]

Do I need to point out the obvious, that facebook share dates etc are not indicative of when a picture was taken?

Even if you throw out the date, it clearly occurred during or after 2014, since the post references "John Wick".

[It is Fake]

Also, presumption of innocence is white knighting now?
Hahahaha...
Ok.

No, repeated appeals to authority coupled with shitty logic make you a white knight. Do you need the posts or are you just bored and trolling for likes?

[Dr. Gonzo]

No, repeated appeals to authority coupled with shitty logic make you a white knight. Do you need the posts or are you just bored and trolling for likes?

Appeals to authority when expertise and credentials in an area are present and valid are not a fallacy.

Rigan is an authority on Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu, grappling, and Vale Tudo type activities.

However, authority certainly does not equal infallability,
and I never claimed that Rigan was infallable in any area.

I merely claimed that Rigan's expertise in Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu exceeds my own and exceeds the expertise of most low and mid level black belts in BJJ.

And that remains true.

[ChenPengFi]

No, repeated appeals to authority coupled with shitty logic make you a white knight. Do you need the posts or are you just bored and trolling for likes?

Perhaps all of the above, but that doesn't mean I would accept any of this as supporting the claim of a Rigan Machado BJJ BB, and neither should anyone else.
Since when, in the face of a clear denial form the instructor, are context-less pictures from facebook adequate proof of a BJJ BB from said instructor?

That's bullshit.

[ChenPengFi]

Presumption of innocence isn't white knighting. Saying that Rigan can do no wrong because Rigan is white knighting.

Quote where anyone said that.

[Raycetpfl]

Do I need to point out the obvious, that facebook share dates etc are not indicative of when a picture was taken?
Seems sloppy all around.
Public statements be damned, despite "hinky-ness"?

All smoke and no fire? Possible but worth a call to the fire dept.,no ?
Do I need to point out what a sewing circle Bjj is? Probably not. Everyone knows this dudes record if they are in Rigan's circle.
Point being Rigan had this dude teach for him at his main school according to people Gorgette spoke to and he has pictures at that school sporting his shiny new black belt.

[ChenPengFi]

All smoke and no fire? Possible but worth a call to the fire dept.,no ?
Do I need to point out what a sewing circle Bjj is? Probably not. Everyone knows this dudes record if they are in Rigan's circle.
Point being Rigan had this dude teach for him at his main school according to people Gorgette spoke to and he has pictures at that school sporting his shiny new black belt.

It's an appearance of impropriety at the very least.