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    Grandmaster Bob Yoder: 57 Different Ranks

    Any one know this guy?

    Soke Bob Yoder claims to have 57 certifications. Can't post the link to his website just Google it.

    10th Dan Founder/Grandmaster Tai Shu Do
    10th Dan Police Methods
    10th Dan Combat Karate
    10th Dan Combat Jujitsu
    10th Dan Wakazamurai Kokusai Budo
    9th Dan Combat Gojo Karate Do
    9th Dan Bhat Ninjutsu/Karate
    9th Dan Ninjutsu
    8th Dan Gojitsu-Ryu Karate-Do
    8th Dan American Modern JuJitsu
    8th Dan American Modern Aikido
    8th Dan Freestyle Karate
    8th Dan Shioku Waza
    6th Dan Scientific Tad Sun Pok Hybrid System5th Dan Shinka Ryu Ninjutsu
    5th Dan Ninpo-Do
    5th Dan Hapkido
    5th Dan Hapki-Do Police Methods
    5th Dan Dragon Shaolin Kenpo Karate5th Dan Kenpo Karate-do4th Dan Shaolin Twin Dragons Kenpo Jiu-Jitsu4th Dan Guardian Kempo JuJitsu "Old Style"4th Dan Tactical Combat Kajukenbo
    4th Dan American Kenpo Karate
    4th Dan Valadez Kenpo-Ryu4th Dan Praying Mantis Kung Fu4th Dan Tai Sheng Men Kung Fu3rd Dan Shaolin Dragon Kung Fu3rd Dan Choy Lay Fut Kung Fu
    3rd Dan Tae Kwon Do
    3rd Dan Krav Maga
    2nd Dan Yoshin Ryu Combat JuJitsu
    2nd Dan Koga Ryu Ninjutsu
    2nd Dan Keha Karate-Do
    2nd Dan Brazilian Jiu Jitsu
    1st Dan Aikijitsu
    1st Dan Hwa Rang Do
    1st Dan Shaolin Chaun Fa
    1st Dan Kan Balam Kung Fu
    1st Dan Decuerdas Eskrima
    1st Dan Zen Sekei Goshin Jitsu
    Master Instructor Military CQC System
    Master Level Filipino Boxing
    Master Instructor Chin Na
    Senior Instructor Kali Silat
    Senior Instructor Combat Silat
    Senior Instructor Jeet Kune Do
    Senior Instructor Jeet Kune Do Concepts
    Senior Instructor Offensive Fighting System
    Wing Chun Red Sash Full Instructor
    Shifu Shaolin-Wutang Kung Fu Internal Power Systems
    Expert/Teacher Warrior Self Defense System
    Certified Knife Instructor
    Ground Tactics Instructor
    Instructor Dim Mak
    Instructor Kun Tao
    Instructor Muay Thai
    Instructor Kyusho-Jitsu
    Instructor Law Enforcement Combative Tactics
    Instructor Tactical Stick Defense
    Instructor Tactical Knife Defense
    Instructor Tactical Gun Defense
    State Certified UASD Instructor DRC
    Black Sash Kung Fu & KickboxingCertified Unarmed Combat InstructorCertified Disabled Martial Arts InstructorCertified Disabled Self Defense InstructorCertified Senior Citizen Self Defense InstructorCertified Rape Prevention Self Defense Instructor

    Diaz

    #2
    I assume this - http://www.taishudo.com/ - is his site.

    A few of those style names have popped up here before, Valadez Kenpo being the first one that caught my eye.

    Kan Balam Kung Fu - teaches via correspondence, and the founder is also part of the Valadez Kenpo circle-jerk.

    Keha Karate-Do - also connected to Valadez Kenpo

    I'm sure there's a few more connections there.

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      #3
      Someone with just a third of those rankings would seem suspect, but since you started a MABS thread, you should do some legwork. Some places to start:
      -contact him, find who gave which ranks
      -contact those people to confirm

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        #4
        Holy crap. Yeah, let's get something on this.

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          #5
          It seems like a lot of this could be discredited just with some Googling.

          It'd be interesting to send this guy an e-mail and ask him where one gets a 10th dan in police methods. I might be up for that later in the weekend. Busy tonight.

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            #6
            BTW, where are you finding that list of ranks? I'm not seeing it here.

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              #7
              Originally posted by OwlMatt View Post
              BTW, where are you finding that list of ranks? I'm not seeing it here.
              Click on the link for "Staff" - his bio is the only one.

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                #8
                Originally posted by Chili Pepper View Post
                Click on the link for "Staff" - his bio is the only one.
                That has a different list of accomplishments -- which also ought to be investigated -- but no ranks.

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                  #9
                  Putting one of those rank claims into Google turns up some interesting results:
                  http://truwazama.weebly.com/soke-bob-yoder.html
                  http://radicalmartialrts.blogspot.co...s-kung-fu.html

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by OwlMatt View Post
                    It seems like a lot of this could be discredited just with some Googling.
                    Is Googling even necessary? It would be hard to know where to begin. Available thru his website is the "Killer Ninja Training Program," which will allow you to "master the secret art of the Ninja and earn your Ninjutsu Black Belt right at home," all for the low price of $97/month. You can also join the "Ninja Training Affiliate Program" where you will receive commissions for selling Ninja Training. No website? No problem -- he will show you how to sell Ninja Training to your friends thru Facebook and email. Enough said.

                    Its a clever business model -- his website contains such a high volume of crap that it becomes a daunting task to sort it all out. BTW, a lot of his links are dead.

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                      #12
                      I'm not finding Those rank claims on his website right now, but the google-cached version of his bio page shows that he's added the line "copy of rank certification(s): please ask if needed" sometime since November 9th.

                      Here a link to a page where those ranks can still be found, along with a claim to hold a "doctor of philosophy in martial arts and defense tactics" from West Coast University. I have a screenshot of the page in case anything changes there.

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                        #13
                        This West Coast University is apparently a Panama based distance learning university that offers doctorates in martial arts alongside programs like hypnotherapy and christian leadership. Its credibility has been called into question in many places, including its home country of Panama where it currently has no accreditation whatsoever.


                        From the "Oregon List" of unaccredited colleges:
                        This name is used by multiple unaccredited entities. The extent to which they are related is unknown. All outside the U.S. are considered degree mills because they lack appropriate governmental authority to issue degrees. Not the same as the accredited Health Sciences school by the same name in California.
                        Hosted on the Internet Wayback Machine: http://web.archive.org/web/201105250...ccredited.aspx


                        Not something a discerning academic would want to be associated with in any way.

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                          #14
                          Well you can't even see his rank certifications on his website now. All it lists is this:
                          "COPY OF RANK CERTIFICATION(s): Please ask if needed."

                          From the link that The Cap provided, Yoder states that he started training when he was 8 and that it's been 34 years now, so I gather he's somewhere between 42-43. 57 ranks in 34 years? One of his ranks is '2nd Dan Koga Ryu Ninjitsu'...but there's no legitimate school left that teaches the Koga lineage, right? And a '9th Dan Ninjitsu? Who's ninjitsu? And what the hell is a '10th Dan in Police Methods'? This has got bullshido all over it.

                          Anyways, I've contacted the site and said it looks interesting but I wanted to know a little more about Mr. Yoder, specifically what martial arts he is ranked in and who/what body of authority issued the ranks. It'll be interesting to see what kind of a reply is sent to me.

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                            #15
                            Check this out. Apparently, someone did an interview with Yoder. Notice that when he lists his ranks and certifications that he says "Below most ranks have been earned, others have been given honorary, and others cross-ranked." Unfortunately, he doesn't identify which ranks are which.

                            http://truwazama.weebly.com/soke-bob-yoder.html

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