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    Last edited by baltasargracian; 11/11/2004 11:44pm, .

    #2
    And where did you get this load of bullshit from?

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      #3
      From Bujinkan, where else!?

      Geez. I can't believe some noobs.
      Deluxe247 tells it like it is:

      you ninja fags just got owned in a bad way. this thread should go to the classics and mega thread forum due to the sheer size of taebo_master and gajusceaser's penis. (with which they just smacked across these ninja's faces)
      from:

      This Classic Thread - http://www.bullshido.net/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=9653&perpage=15&pagenum ber=14

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        #4
        17) Dr. Hatsumi is infallable and is the best fighter in the world. Everything he says must be followed.

        As ex-Bujinkan myself, I'd agree with everything he posted (and wish I wrote it myself). Number one is very true. They don't like cross-training of any type. I had several teachers tell me that even jogging is bad for your form and shouldn't be done because my Taijutsu should be all the exercise I need! When I mentioned that I wanted to cross-train in grappling one instructor (a 9th(!) Dan) giggled and commented that all that "sport stuff wrasslin'" doesn't work and he only teaches 'real' str33t techniques. I was then asked to leave. Sigh.

        Any other ex-Bujinkan want to add to the list? I can come up with a number of new entries.
        Last edited by katana; 4/24/2004 9:45am, .

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          #5
          Originally posted by dodger87
          And where did you get this load of bullshit from?
          The same place every ex-Bujinkan gets it from:

          His brain.

          Read it from a "10th Dan" Alex Mordine yourself:

          http://www.shinobudojo.com/news/newsletter.pdf
          Last edited by katana; 4/24/2004 9:55am, .

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            #6
            17) dont forget check.all monies are due by the 1st.do not cross train,it may take away money from our school and un brainwash you.
            JOHN DOE
            Hmmm. I'll kill him. I'll kill him dead. Like with, with a, rock or something. Like a, like a stone.
            evil master betty

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              #7
              crap

              Originally posted by katana
              The same place every ex-Bujinkan gets it from:

              His brain.

              Read it from a "10th Dan" Alex Mordine yourself:

              http://www.shinobudojo.com/news/newsletter.pdf

              I also am a 10th Dan and lived in Japan for 7 yrs.
              I trained with Alex and he always was a putz.
              and even before I added SBG concepts and BJJ I always sparred. I competed in the Mr. Tokyo 65 kilo Bodybuilding Championships. Also another Bujinkan Member Sean Askew cross trained in Shooto and Hontai Takagi Yoshin Ryu Jujutsu with Hatsumi's blessing. The only cross training Taboo is not with any break off orgs like the Genbukan or the Jinenkan.
              Also remember both Hatsumi and Nagato Sensei are 5th Dans in judo. Hatsumi Sensei boxed and Nagato Sensei was a kickboxing champ.

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                #8
                Re: crap

                Originally posted by shinbushi
                I also am a 10th Dan and lived in Japan for 7 yrs.
                I trained with Alex and he always was a putz.
                and even before I added SBG concepts and BJJ I always sparred. I competed in the Mr. Tokyo 65 kilo Bodybuilding Championships. Also another Bujinkan Member Sean Askew cross trained in Shooto and Hontai Takagi Yoshin Ryu Jujutsu with Hatsumi's blessing. The only cross training Taboo is not with any break off orgs like the Genbukan or the Jinenkan.
                Also remember both Hatsumi and Nagato Sensei are 5th Dans in judo. Hatsumi Sensei boxed and Nagato Sensei was a kickboxing champ.
                Then why is this practice discouraged in the Bujinkan dojos in the US? I've been to schools all over this country and I would have loved to find a Bujinkan school with an instructor who trained the way you described. I never found this to be the case. I'll admit there are dojos that may train this way, but they are so far in the minority that it weakens the Bujinkan system significantly.

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                  #9
                  Katana has a point.

                  I am an ex Bujinkaner as well and heard many of the same things, especially about lifting weights. I only met a few Bujinkan instructors that currently cross trained and didn't follow at leat 5 of the things posted.
                  ______
                  Xiao Ao Jiang Hu Zhi Dong Fang Bu Bai (Laughing Proud Warrior Invincible Asia) Dark Emperor of Baji!!!

                  RIP SOLDIER

                  Didn't anyone ever tell him a fat man could never be a ninja
                  -Gene, GODHAND

                  You can't practice Judo just to win a Judo Match! You practice so that no matter what happens, you can win using Judo!
                  The key to fighting two men at once is to be much tougher than both of them.
                  -Daniel Tosh

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                    #10
                    The PDF newsletter was interesting, but what did the guy mean by "dark spirituality" and how it dosen't come from god? Is he implying that martial arts cults are, like, satanic or something?
                    Lone Wolf McQuade Final Fight: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VmrDe_mYUXg

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                      #11
                      This is very strange for me to hear ive always heard good things about bujinkan. Especially from reading the books of Glenn J. Morris. From what I have read and heard the close minded people are driven away from the ryu. However this wouldnt be the first time i would see a very strange opinion on these boards. For example the whole everyone hating bruce lee for winning that poll of the top ten martial artists. Anyways very strange to read bad things about bujinkan and soke hatsumi but i geuss ill just keep an open mind

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                        #12
                        I haven't noticed any such things while training in bujinkan. In fact my instructor says that cross training is very beneficial to your skill, especially since we can't do any spar training. I plan on joining a boxing or muay thai gym based on his advice. The only bad thing he does say about other martial arts is that aikido and judo and alot of gentle fancy stuff like that is useless in an actual fight. I think you may have just had a lousy instructor who thought the bujinkan is supreme and all other systems are inferior.

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                          #13
                          Glenn J. Morris is a complete nutbag. He's definately not an example of Bujinkan at it's best. I remember when I was at a bookstore, meeting some guy who practiced Bujinkan telling me about the great books written by Gless Morris. This was back when I was still looking for a fighting style. I bought one of the books to check it out. He seemes to be more interested in the occult than ninpo. He even wrote about majic stones and accounts of Hatsumi sensei visiting him in his dreams. He's a good source I guess if you want to get involved into new age. I met a Bujinkan guy in my home city that supplemented groundfighting with his taijutsu and also said that Hatsumi tries to shun people away from Glenn Morris in that he doesn't represent the Bujinkan very well. I'm not a big fan of Bujinkan anyways. I see it as a martial art that promises sickly or overweight middle aged men the illusion of being some kind of bad ass ninja master.

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by chrisdo13
                            [B]This is very strange for me to hear ive always heard good things about bujinkan. Especially from reading the books of Glenn J. Morris. From what I have read and heard the close minded people are driven away from the ryu.


                            You mean sort of like how Ashida Kim claims that everyone who bashes him is close-minded?
                            Lone Wolf McQuade Final Fight: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VmrDe_mYUXg

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by pacific
                              I haven't noticed any such things while training in bujinkan. In fact my instructor says that cross training is very beneficial to your skill, especially since we can't do any spar training. I plan on joining a boxing or muay thai gym based on his advice. The only bad thing he does say about other martial arts is that aikido and judo and alot of gentle fancy stuff like that is useless in an actual fight. I think you may have just had a lousy instructor who thought the bujinkan is supreme and all other systems are inferior.
                              Judo is not alot of gentle fancy stuff. You obviously haven't got a clue what you're talking about. Fag.

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