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    Oh who wants to learn that anyway?

    Ninjutsu is just kempo with occult religious practices, mind-control techniques, and training in poisons and crap. Join a cult, buy a soldier of fortune magazine, and take a kempo class if you want ninjutsu.

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    What the fuck?
    And that's when I figured out that tears couldn't make somebody who was dead alive again. There's another thing to learn about tears, they can't make somebody who doesn't love you any more love you again. It's the same with prayers. I wonder how much of their lives people waste crying and praying to God. If you ask me, the devil makes more sense than God does. I can at least see why people would want him around. It's good to have somebody to blame for the bad stuff they do. Maybe God's there because people get scared of all the bad stuff they do. They figure that God and the Devil are always playing this game of tug-of-war game with them. And they never know which side they're gonna wind up on. I guess that tug-of-war idea explains how sometimes, even when people try to do something good, it still turns out bad.

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      #3
      Its a reply to the "anyone teach ninjutsu" post but the topic got messed up on accident.

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        #4
        I see.
        And that's when I figured out that tears couldn't make somebody who was dead alive again. There's another thing to learn about tears, they can't make somebody who doesn't love you any more love you again. It's the same with prayers. I wonder how much of their lives people waste crying and praying to God. If you ask me, the devil makes more sense than God does. I can at least see why people would want him around. It's good to have somebody to blame for the bad stuff they do. Maybe God's there because people get scared of all the bad stuff they do. They figure that God and the Devil are always playing this game of tug-of-war game with them. And they never know which side they're gonna wind up on. I guess that tug-of-war idea explains how sometimes, even when people try to do something good, it still turns out bad.

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          #5
          what is your problem man? i was just curious if there were any real techers out there?

          Today impossible, Tomarrow Possible
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            #6
            Sorry. There are a few guys who claim to, but really ninjas were just assassins and thugs. They had martial arts training, but mainly concealed weaponry and poisons and the like. There are also many hand positions used for mind control and it delves into the Japanese occult. The actual martial art is very similar to kempo and some historians claim that ninjas as seen in movies were shaolin monks from China who left the temples to sell their skills.

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              #7
              Its true that in Japan ninja are considered like the .. witches or druids of Japan. They think of it as an ugly part of their culture. Hatsumi has worked hard to try to give it a positive image .. saying it is nature worship and about humanity .. but whatever. They snuck into people's houses and dropped poison down a line of thread to their lips, pretended to be crippled women and shot people with poison darts from blow guns while they hid in the bushes. Sure they are all mystical and interesting .. but far from honorable. Far from admirable.

              They did practice black magic, occultic arts, used drugs and potions and summoned up spiritual strength with hand signals. This is according to Hatsumi's book. People thought they were demons back in the day - the boogieman - that is why they are in all the cartoons in Japan. They are the boogieman.

              That being said, they were good spies and recon guys. They did the dirty work that samurai were above doing - like what our CIA does today.

              Also, they did what they had to for survival in troubled times.

              It just depends if you think that "kyojitsu tenkan ho" (use all advantages) is an honorable philosophy of war. Do whatever it takes. Cheat to win.



              Edited by - 9chambers on November 11 2002 09:49:11

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                #8
                Clarification:

                The BLACK MAGIC you think of is NOT the same in the western since. Mikkyo is the main stream esoteric form of buddhism with many mystical rights,etc. Those of orthodox buddhism would think this is DARKER in comparison.

                Ninjas were king of psyops for their time. I you knew your opponent was supertitious wouldn't you use that against them? (the US military did a similar thing during the gulf war. Pork is taboo to muslims and the military sprayed pork greas on munitions crates and loosed pigs into camps since Muslims find pigs to be unclean they would not use the tainted ammonitions and didn't want ot say in the camps.) That is why the image of ninja being demons, flying, walking on water, etc was played up. IT SCARED THE SHIT OUT OF PPLE. Remember ninjas were REGULAR pple in they didn't believe in all this it was just trickery.

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