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    Just finished the book last night. Great read, but wondering the degree of reality v. let's make a great story?

    Anybody out there have any thoughts on this book?

    Oh yeah, it's by Anthony Swofford.

    #2
    Whats the book about?
    Ghost of Charles Dickens

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      #3
      Anthony Swofford was a former Marine Sniper that served in Desert Storm. The book is about his personal experience, and attempts a 360 about what life really is like for a Marine, including his psychology and social world, through joining, training, deployment/combat and ultimately rejoining 'civvie' life.

      The book is very readable, and Swofford is a very personable writer. I don't think it's so much pre and post nor pro or con regarding the Marines/war as a memoir of the whole mind fuck. I mean, everyone has their own reasons for any undertaking, and I reckon they are very rarely black/white simple.

      I thought it was pretty good. Was just wondering if anyone else out there had any thoughts on it.
      Last edited by Dibble; 1/02/2004 6:45pm, .

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        #4
        Haven't read the book but your description has got me interested.

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          #5
          Dibble,
          I've read some excerpts, and Swofford's rendition of military life is extremely accurate in all the ways that other stories never are. Looking forward to reading this book, in a big way.
          Normally, I'd say I was grappling, but I was taking down and mounting people, and JFS has kindly informed us that takedowns and being mounted are neither grappling nor anti grappling, so I'm not sure what the fuck I was doing. Maybe schroedinger's sparring, where it's neither grappling nor anti-grappling until somoene observes it and collapses the waveform, and then I RNC a cat to death.----fatherdog

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            #6
            Holy shit, I just bought this book and started reading it like 5 minutes ago. Then I started reading bullshido board and found this.

            I'm enjoying it. Obviously, he's not a great author. I don't buy history/military books in the hopes of being impressed or shown something amazing through his usage of words. But its amazing, his stories. They're entertaining and at the same time realistic. I have a lot of family that have been in the military, or still are. Most talk all the time about fantasy stories the same thing as military stories. But the family members who read this book and told me that it was good were right.
            "did Phrost just call me a 'bitch'?"-Omega

            "The collective IQ of bullshido was reduced with the departure of Wastrel. It further dropped due to the retention of (Serious Harm)."
            - The all knowing Dochter

            "but like, it's possible to develop such a level of reflex that you can literally detect someones movements through sensitivity, and block without even thinking"-Apostol

            That's the amazing thing about Ninjas, for sneeky cocksuckers, they are all over the place, like dog shit on your shoe.-Ronin69

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              #7
              My brother got me the book for Christmas. Its a good story and I tend to believe him because he doesn't appear to puff up his accomplishments. Yes he got mortered and did recon but the fates intervened so that he went through the conflict without killing anyone, something that he appears to be glad about now.

              He is best at portraying the boredom and waiting around inherent in military service, interspaced of course with short periods of total terror and the never ending chore of haulling heavy gear around. My only problems with the book is when he goes inside his head to report his own mood swings or discuss his personal life he seems to try to make himself appear more screwed up then he really was. He also took literature to the desert with him which he doesn't mention his fellow 19-20 year old marines doing, so he appears to have been not your typical marine of that age.

              Finally what really surprised me was how often he and his fellow marines would come across dead Iraqs packed in their bunkers on the way into Kuwait. I guess I'm so used to hearing the pentegon exaggerate their airpower results that I'm surprised when everything works as described.

              All my nitpicking aside its a good read. Will you consider forming our Bullshido Book Club Dibble?

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                #8
                I might pick it up. Sounds interesting, got a few book's I should finish before they go back.
                "ARGH SURF NINJAS *implodes* " the cruel fate of Stold3

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                  #9
                  If there WAS a book club on bullshido, shouldn't it be martial arts related? I don't think this would be the appropriate type of book.

                  OR if it started in the OFF-topic discussion, I guess that would be cool.
                  "did Phrost just call me a 'bitch'?"-Omega

                  "The collective IQ of bullshido was reduced with the departure of Wastrel. It further dropped due to the retention of (Serious Harm)."
                  - The all knowing Dochter

                  "but like, it's possible to develop such a level of reflex that you can literally detect someones movements through sensitivity, and block without even thinking"-Apostol

                  That's the amazing thing about Ninjas, for sneeky cocksuckers, they are all over the place, like dog shit on your shoe.-Ronin69

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                    #10
                    I use to be into reading militaria stuff when I was younger. I still have compyies of JAne's Dfense Weekly and Commet and a few books here and there. The only thing I find interesting now is the War of 1812.
                    Ghost of Charles Dickens

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                      #11
                      I seem to understand these are real life stories......I am now interested in this book as well.

                      Military has a lot of hurry-up-and-wait but other people here can tell you more.
                      :)



                      "He also took literature to the desert with him which he doesn't mention his fellow 19-20 year old marines doing, so he appears to have been not your typical marine of that age."

                      Actually I believe the other Marines brought other types of literature.
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                        #12
                        Yeah, he spoke about a lot of specific literature. Such as... porno mags. Besides that, they didn't bring anything else.

                        I find it interesting he brought those books actually, because in the desert with a bunch of guys, this seems like the last thing someone would do.

                        Except me maybe.
                        "did Phrost just call me a 'bitch'?"-Omega

                        "The collective IQ of bullshido was reduced with the departure of Wastrel. It further dropped due to the retention of (Serious Harm)."
                        - The all knowing Dochter

                        "but like, it's possible to develop such a level of reflex that you can literally detect someones movements through sensitivity, and block without even thinking"-Apostol

                        That's the amazing thing about Ninjas, for sneeky cocksuckers, they are all over the place, like dog shit on your shoe.-Ronin69

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