Checkpoints - Alex Jones

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YouTube - DHS Checkpoint Blog Entry 14: Obedience Training

Alex Jones has been talking about this sort of stuff for years. Institution of mandatory stop checkpoints and such things. Does anyone know of the legality of this, or more information about the operation of these? What are your thoughts?

[NJM]

Alex Jones tries to link all government abuse to his faggy little conspiracies. He's irrelevant to the topic.

On topic: They are technically under the banner of homeland security, so it's rather unconstitutional to have homeland security, a federal institution, policing the interior of the United States in that manner. However, nobody cares enough to do anything about it, and in real-life it's not going to spell the end to the republic or any shit like that.

[mrm1775]

I don't claim to know all of the details regarding the legality of these checkpoints, but this video doesn't make the case for the other side. This guy drove up to the checkpoint with the deliberate intention of antagonizing those agents and creating an incident. It seems to me that asking someone about his citizenship is really no different than asking for their driver's license. They didn't even try to search him or his vehicle, which seems to be the constitutional issue he was so up in arms about.

On a side note, please tell me that you mentioned Alex Jones in passing and that you don't lend any credibility to that lunatic.

[Ka-Bar]

Alex Jones is a nutjob, but he does have a point. I don't like these checkpoints at all and I cannot believe that a Federal Agent hasn't been trained to tell a person if and when that person is being detained. Requiring a person to stop at a checkpoint and asking them a question is indeed a detention and the Agent should have advised Mr. Jones accordingly.

However, whether I like it or not, the SCOTUS has already ruled on this, as mentioned by Mr. Jones. The thing that strikes me as ludicrous is that Jones mentions USA v Martinez-Fuerte several times, but he clearly hasn't read or doesn't understand the actual case, as the checkpoint and the Agents' questioning are deemed constitutional.

[mrm1775]

Its not Jones in the video, by the way. I would recognize that turd's voice anywhere. This is some other nut.

[AAAhmed46]

Some of the topics here belong is sociociocide.

[Zapruder]

They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.

[Mr. Mantis]

Those big burly police men are allowed to do checkpoints as long as they are random, and they're not trying to target specific people. You don't have an expectation of privacy in your car.

But hey, it's nuthin' a little cleavage can't fix, a little tear and some pouty lips and you're back on the road.

[sochin101]

But hey, it's nuthin' a little cleavage can't fix, a little tear and some pouty lips and you're back on the road.

you're my favourite tran$exual

[Mr. Mantis]

you're my favourite tran$exual

Thanks hun!
You're my second favorite Limey.:love7:

[sochin101]

Thanks hun!
You're my second favorite Limey.:love7:

Damn your Prince Charles fetish!

[NJM]

Those big burly police men are allowed to do checkpoints as long as they are random, and they're not trying to target specific people. You don't have an expectation of privacy in your car.

They weren't policemen.

[Mr. Mantis]

They weren't policemen.

I wondered why their handcuffs were fuzzy.
:copdance:

[MrGalt]

On topic: They are technically under the banner of homeland security, so it's rather unconstitutional to have homeland security, a federal institution, policing the interior of the United States in that manner.

Um...federal institutions, like the FBI, IRS, Federal Marshals and National Guard can't operate in the United States? That's awesome.

[NJM]

Um...federal institutions, like the FBI, IRS, Federal Marshals and National Guard can't operate in the United States? That's awesome.

Not in the same manner as police. You don't get pulled over for speeding by an FBI agent.