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    The global economy

    Seen a number of threads lately on monetary issues, economic issues etc.... IMHO, I wonder how many realize the emerging global economies mean dramatic changes especially for American's. Economics says unlimited wants with limited resources... As third world countries develop and come more on line, we here in America must realize this means fewer resources to go around... our standard of living will decrease as their standard of living increases...It almost a law of nature. But it OK you just have to adjust to the change and make your self more productive and able to deal with what you have...You need to develop a skill that people are willing to pay you to use. The better you develop the skill the more money you will get as a result.... So, your situation is still yours to control.... Everything is up to you. Make the best of your opportunities and chose wisely.... Why am I posting this... don't know for sure just seemed like something to do....
    Last edited by Justme; 12/11/2003 12:30pm, .

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    Oh, and this gives me as many threads started as Wastrel.... *applause*.... Thank you

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      Economics says unlimited wants with limited resources... As third world countries develop and come more on line, we here in America must realize this means fewer resources to go around... I standard of living will decrease as their standard of living increases...It almost a law of nature
      Um...This is not correct.

      One example:

      First of all, LDCs are overwhelmingly countries with agricultural and textiles products as their priniple industries.

      If the US finds a way to stop protecting domestic producers from foreign competition, LDC exports could lower prices on produce and textiles.

      That's a good thing. The problem is that American producers bear a heavier burden of regulation that makes their operations more expensive. So until we can deal with that imbalance, American farmers have a disadvantage vis a vis the global South.

      Lower prices on primary goods means lower prices on everything. Development in Chile could mean more demand for American products, which brings money into our country.

      Development is good for everyone.
      Normally, I'd say I was grappling, but I was taking down and mounting people, and JFS has kindly informed us that takedowns and being mounted are neither grappling nor anti grappling, so I'm not sure what the fuck I was doing. Maybe schroedinger's sparring, where it's neither grappling nor anti-grappling until somoene observes it and collapses the waveform, and then I RNC a cat to death.----fatherdog

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        #4
        Economically it is correct.... And I am not saying development is bad.... It is good. You are correct about uninfluences from government regulation where ever it exists... OK, I should say base economics... laws of supply and demand does indicate limited resources....


        "That's a good thing. The problem is that American producers bear a heavier burden of regulation that makes their operations more expensive. So until we can deal with that imbalance, American farmers have a disadvantage vis a vis the global South."

        True. The economic condition should be a level playing field with sensible regards for the environment, and working conditions for employee's and a like....

        I am just saying we will have to learn to live in a global market with less national influence....

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          #5
          Less national influence? Yes. That's different. But development won't produce scarcity.
          Normally, I'd say I was grappling, but I was taking down and mounting people, and JFS has kindly informed us that takedowns and being mounted are neither grappling nor anti grappling, so I'm not sure what the fuck I was doing. Maybe schroedinger's sparring, where it's neither grappling nor anti-grappling until somoene observes it and collapses the waveform, and then I RNC a cat to death.----fatherdog

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            #6
            Sure it will. Eventually. As more countries come up to par the raw materials to supply them with what they want will overlap more and more. That will breed scarcity. Actually to avoid intense problems technology allow more efficient use comes into play. This is going to get complicated but is a good valid discussion.

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              #7
              Productivity. And you're talking about post-development problems. Some of these countries don't have enough to eat now. It's not going to get worse for them as they develop.
              Normally, I'd say I was grappling, but I was taking down and mounting people, and JFS has kindly informed us that takedowns and being mounted are neither grappling nor anti grappling, so I'm not sure what the fuck I was doing. Maybe schroedinger's sparring, where it's neither grappling nor anti-grappling until somoene observes it and collapses the waveform, and then I RNC a cat to death.----fatherdog

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                #8
                I am not explaining myself. Your right it is going to get better. Ours is going to get worse. I am not talking about the collapse of US economy no. I am saying we will be required to share more. It is not a bad thing. Ya know what is terrible. IMHO, the U.S. could feed the entire world if it weren't for political and idealogical difference both others and our own. We have that capacity.

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                  #9
                  I have a hard time believeing that regulation will be diminished without some sort of coup. My question is would the U.S. founding fathers be upset? Did they in fact delare their independence from England for less governmental intrusion?
                  “We are surrounded by warships and don’t have time to talk. Please pray for us.” — One Somali Pirate.

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                    #10
                    Justme, you are assuming its a zero-sum game. Its not.

                    We can increase the size of the pie you know. Its not only possible, its probable the world will make enough food, give everyone internet/TV/entertainment/blah, and have raw resources for electronics or metal or whatever. There will also probalby not be a shortage of concrete.

                    Silicon is abundant on Earth, and if we run short on metals we could drag an asteroid here and use "re-entry smelting" to keep costs down even.

                    Okay, so that was a lame attempt at a geek joke.

                    Anyway, its not a zero-sum game, the pie can grow bigger, but oil will run out some day. Lets just hope we get artificial chemical fuel or some kind of good electric car.

                    P.S. Something I've wondered is why not use the propane tank exchange idea with batteries if we bitch about recharge times? Just have a big ass beehive like thing instead of gastations that charge up batteries... you drop off a used, pick up a fresh one. Have it ala carte. A sports car could have an extra battery even or something.... keep the power standardized just like it is with gas now.
                    Katana, on 540 kicks: "Hang from a ceiling fan with both hands. Flail your feet out and ask people to walk into you as you hit their face."

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                      #11
                      Nihil... good points... I must think them over... its raises a lot of questions....ummhhh..

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                        #12
                        HEMP IS THE NUMBER ONE biomass producer on planet earth: 10 tons per acre in approximately four months. It is a woody plant containing 77% cellulose. Wood produces 60% cellulose. This energy crop can be harvested with equipment readily available. It can be "cubed" by modifying hay cubing equipment. This method condenses the bulk, reducing trucking costs from the field to the pyrolysis reactor. And the biomass cubes are ready for conversion with no further treatment.

                        Hemp is drought resistant, making it an ideal crop in the dry western regions of the country. Hemp is the only biomass resource capable of making America energy independent. And our government outlawed it in 1938.

                        Remember, in 10 years, by the year 2000, America will have exhausted 80% of her petroleum reserves. Will we then go to war with the Arabs for the privilege of driving our cars; will we stripmine our land for coal, and poison our air so we can drive our autos an extra 100 years; will we raze our forests for our energy needs?

                        During World War II, our supply of hemp was cut off by the Japanese. The federal government responded to the emergency by suspending marijuana prohibition. Patriotic American farmers were encouraged to apply for a license to cultivate hemp and responded enthusiastically. Hundreds of thousands of acres of hemp were grown.

                        The argument against hemp production does not hold up to scrutiny: hemp grown for biomass makes very poor grade marijuana. The 20 to 40 million Americans who smoke marijuana would loath to smoke hemp grown for biomass, so a farmer's hemp biomass crop is worthless as marijuana.

                        It is time the government once again respond to our economic emergency as they did in WWII to permit our farmers to grow American hemp so this mighty nation can once again become energy independent and smog free.

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                          Hemp is a great plant that has stupid baggage attached to it because of the politicized "war on drugs". Just regular hemp, not pot, can't even get you high anyway.

                          Tomatoes and Potatoes have Nicotine. Fat and grease... makes you fat and can give you heart disease. Nobody rags on that! Thousands die because of car crashes... *crickes chirp*.

                          We drive massive SUVS while the rest of the world goes on making cars with freaking BREMBO BRAKES that stop on a DIME, and putting AWD on damn near everything, but we're happy to drive a big ass RWD machines meant for farmers and people who actually tow shit or offroad as a daily driver, that are dangerous as hell.. and nobody complains about that.

                          We really do have odd priorities.
                          Katana, on 540 kicks: "Hang from a ceiling fan with both hands. Flail your feet out and ask people to walk into you as you hit their face."

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                            #14
                            All your arguments are irrelevant.
                            As the US dollar continues to fall, importing MMA products from the US will get cheaper and cheaper for me.

                            My girlfriend can't argue with me when I say. 'but honey the new Frank Shamrock series is like 100 cheaper than if I had of ordered it 6+ months ago!)

                            THAT IS WHAT IS IMPORTANT MY FRIENDS!
                            The Wastrel - So attractive he HAS to be a woman.
                            - Pizdoff

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                              #15
                              FoM illustrates my point about monetary exchanges perfectly.
                              Normally, I'd say I was grappling, but I was taking down and mounting people, and JFS has kindly informed us that takedowns and being mounted are neither grappling nor anti grappling, so I'm not sure what the fuck I was doing. Maybe schroedinger's sparring, where it's neither grappling nor anti-grappling until somoene observes it and collapses the waveform, and then I RNC a cat to death.----fatherdog

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