9/11 was an inside job

[goodlun]

[FinalLegion]

Guys, guys:

If only.

[FinalLegion]

They are aggrieved. They live in a place that has been at war for decades. that will produce grievencess. I'm not saying that all their grievences are valid, but they are existant.

They are not aggrieved with the decades long war(s); rather, their grievances flow completely from their religious zealotry.

I'm in Ohio. They are of zero threat to me. If they become a threat to me, they are welcome to come and get shot in my yard like any other asshole.

Your location is irrelevant. If ISIS decides something or someone in Ohio needs to destroyed and it/he/she is in proximity to you than they will proceed. ISIS is a global threat as they are not limiting their operations to one geographical area.

They stand zero chance of impossing religious law in the US. When I worry about the imposition of religious law here, I worry about other religions that have more cultural history and traction.

Who said that ISIS is going to impose religious laws in the U.S.? I doubt that they are stupid enough to think they will ever have enough muscle to do that; however, it's likely they will use terrorism to try and force the U.S. into not bothering them (highly unlikely) or they will freely attack specific targets in the U.S. whose destruction they believe will usher in the prophecies they so believe in.

The first S in ISIS stands for state. Any "Islamic State" whether in Iraq or the Levant or ISIC (Islamic State in Candyland) is a political entity.

It has a military, it has laws, it has a seperate civilian administration, it mints coinage.

That makes it a state, a political entity.

ISIS exists as a state merely to further their religious agenda. As I said before, political and economic power are secondary objectives. They are merely tools. ISIS is not looking to be a sovereign state and just be left alone; rather, they intend to use their existence as a state as a staging point for their holy war.

That is not the take away I got from the article you posted. Their religious authority is predicated on physical control of territory. Political and military control legitimates them.

And it's that perceived legitimacy that attracts more followers, which is another problem.

Their religious interperatations and fundementalist aspirations are all predicated on statehood not on winning a religious arguement with other religious scholars.

Obviously they are not out to win academic debates. As I said above, their existence as a state is merely a tool to carry out their holy war. They are not looking to establish a sovereign state and that's it. They want the prophecies of the Koean to come true. They want the 'End of Days' to come upon the world and they will do whatever is necessary to make that happen.

A totalitarian theocratic state is still a state, and the power is political regardless of its religious trappings.

Again...in the case of ISIS, the state is a tool, not an end.

[BKR]

There are worse things than Chomsky to have lying around your house.



Of course they are on the other side of the political aisle.

LOL ! She would never have read anything Kissinger had to write, that's for sure.

I learned a lot from reading Chomsky. Had never heard of "wage slavery" up to that point, or "speak truth to power". Seriously...

[Antifa]

I've read quite a bit on my own. My ex had a lot of Chomsky laying around the house (not him, his books!). Which led me to to other things.

There are worse things than Chomsky to have lying around your house.



Of course they are on the other side of the political aisle.

[BKR]

Guys, guys:

yeah, some sort of X-Files-esque infection of all those radical (pseudo) Islamic fundamentalists over in the Levant now, yeah, that's the ticket !

[ghost55]

Guys, guys:

[BKR]

That shows that you did not read the links fully or really do not have the political education needed to understand them at all. Sorry.



You make that statement as if history never happened and the world was born yesterday.

I know and understand a lot more than you might think, and you and I would probably agree on a lot more than you might imagine.

But I don't understand everything, for sure. Nobody does.

Although some think they do.

History happened, for sure.

[BKR]

J Sakai can be a little heavy on the jargon, but that book was written for a narrow left audience which is used to that style of discourse. I'm not expecting you or anyone else full embrace it, but it does serve to show some of the things that inform my perspective.

If you, or anybody else, wants more links to substantive things, send me a private message. Phrost doesnt like me taking up a ton of bandwidth with that sort of thing.

I've read quite a bit on my own. My ex had a lot of Chomsky laying around the house (not him, his books!). Which led me to to other things.

However, feel free to post links.

I can't imagine that posting links (I mean, just put them in as plain text) take up that much bandwidth versus videos...

In any case, jargon makes people feel special, even if the jargon is legit.

No, I don't fully embrace a lot of it, although, there is some truth in it.

[Antifa]

ISIS is not an obstacle or a movement of aggrieved Muslims or a conglomeration of the oppressed or a front for the Girl Scouts.

They are aggrieved. They live in a place that has been at war for decades. that will produce grievencess. I'm not saying that all their grievences are valid, but they are existant.

ISIS is a threat to pretty much everyone and that threat is predicated by absolute religious zealotry.

I'm in Ohio. They are of zero threat to me. If they become a threat to me, they are welcome to come and get shot in my yard like any other asshole.

They stand zero chance of impossing religious law in the US. When I worry about the imposition of religious law here, I worry about other religions that have more cultural history and traction.

ISIS is not looking for political or economic power.

The first S in ISIS stands for state. Any "Islamic State" whether in Iraq or the Levant or ISIC (Islamic State in Candyland) is a political entity.

It has a military, it has laws, it has a seperate civilian administration, it mints coinage.

That makes it a state, a political entity.

Acquiring those is purely secondary. ISIS is doing it's damndest to bring forth the prophecies of their religion and they will kill anyone they need to or want to in this endeavor.

http://www.theatlantic.com/features/...-wants/384980/

That is not the take away I got from the article you posted. Their religious authority is predicated on physical control of territory. Political and military control legitimates them.

Their religious interperatations and fundementalist aspirations are all predicated on statehood not on winning a religious arguement with other religious scholars.

A totalitarian theocratic state is still a state, and the power is political regardless of its religious trappings.

[Mr. Machette]

9/11 wasn't an inside job. It's obvious that the Jews did it at the behest of their space lizard overlords.

They won't stop until all the children are ghey.

[FinalLegion]

ISIS is not an obstacle or a movement of aggrieved Muslims or a conglomeration of the oppressed or a front for the Girl Scouts.

ISIS is a threat to pretty much everyone and that threat is predicated by absolute religious zealotry.

ISIS is not looking for political or economic power. Acquiring those is purely secondary. ISIS is doing it's damndest to bring forth the prophecies of their religion and they will kill anyone they need to or want to in this endeavor.

http://www.theatlantic.com/features/...-wants/384980/

[ghost55]

The important takeaway from this is that the Freemasons were the true perpetrators of 9/11. The planes were flown by the Jewlizards, but only because the Freemasons filled the towers with bagels, gold, and fresh crickets.

[Antifa]

along with the links the antifa posted, it's starting to make more sense to me.


It's not about Islam (for the most part) it's about economic opportunity. The crappy jobs (or no jobs) that Muslims get in Europe ain't cutting it, so it's time to join ISIS and fight for economic opportunity.

That shows that you did not read the links fully or really do not have the political education needed to understand them at all. Sorry.

I mean, I guess the French and Germans et al. thought the Muslim immigrants would just snap up those low paying crappy jobs, giving the euro-fascist elite more leisure time.

I guess that may be backfiring on all of them.

You make that statement as if history never happened and the world was born yesterday.

[ghost55]

I think chemtrails might have something to do with this. CHemtrails come from planes and planes were involved in 9/11. Open your eyes sheeple!