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  • JohnnyCache
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    Originally posted by Gringo Grande
    Speaking of modelling, flash, etc. My company did NOT do this work...but a designer who now works for me was involved with this project at his old company. Not really the type of site I like but still cool:

    http://www.anumeric.com/

    GG

    Man that is nice. Usually you see something like that it looks fine but it takes a shit on you when you actually try to use it.

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  • Gringo Grande
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    Speaking of modelling, flash, etc. My company did NOT do this work...but a designer who now works for me was involved with this project at his old company. Not really the type of site I like but still cool:

    http://www.anumeric.com/

    GG

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  • elipson
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    *walks into room, looks around*

    ......uuuuhhhhhhhh I think I'm lost....... I was just looking for...... somethin........

    *leaves quickly*

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  • Jaguar Wong
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    Originally posted by Canuckyokushin
    Ha !Lol!Graphic design are for losers.I'm training in MCAD be'atch.Much higher tax bracket.
    lol, I started all that Graphic Arts stuff in the early 90's when everyone that wanted to be a comic artist was doing the same thing as their "fall back" career. We are indeed a bunch of losers, but there's a special breed that was able to stay ahead of the curve (and I sort of struggled to keep up with those guys), and picked up things like CSS, XHTML, Java, PHP, and the big dog Flash/Actionscript (for designers anyway, the "big dog" for web designers was PHP/ASP/JSP, etc...)

    I do have to say I'm so glad that there are still solid reliable and knowledgable companies doing web design like GG's team. It makes me proud that it hasn't all fallen apart when I bailed a few years ago.

    Also, It's very cool to see guys like Anthony going out of his way to put the money in the right pockets instead of hiring some dude that picked up a little Web Design skill by browsing the web and veiwing source (which is how I got started as well).

    There's still hope for this interweb stuff. I may need to brush off my PHP skills, look into all that crazy Matrix-like stuff GG's doing and start picking up some freelance work again. My Flash and Actionscripting is 1337 (do they still say that 'round here?).

    JC's "brighten up his MySpace profile" is the quote of the thread, though.

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  • CanucKyokushin
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    Ha !Lol!Graphic design are for losers.I'm training in MCAD be'atch.Much higher tax bracket.

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  • JohnnyCache
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    but GG he used CSS.

    He could crack the DOD in 62 seconds while getting a beej with a gun to his head

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  • Gringo Grande
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    Knightmare, you are certainly a believer in the one step forward, two step backwards school

    of thought in terms of trying to be intelligent. Let's see, what should we look at first?

    I'm going to discount your idiotic claim of "doing this for 8 years". One thing is for

    certain, you aren't a professional web designer...owning frontpage, downloading templates,

    and having basic CSS/XHMTL knowledge does not a web designer make. How do I know this?

    1) You totally ignored what the client (Anthony asked for)...and that's all I have to say

    about your "professionalism" to end this portion of the argument.

    Let's move onto your "skills". If you had read my initial post (which apparently you did

    not) you made it seem like someone could go read a website on CSS/XHTML and in 5 days have

    a complete and working website template.

    1)Umm no...there is not a single person on this planet with no prior knowledge that could

    put together a professional looking site from reading that site for 5 days. There is too

    much to learn, even the basics, from the differences between IE and other browser

    rendering, float issues, etc, etc.

    2) Even if by some miracle equaled only by the virgin birth of Christ...someone with no

    knowledge could develop the code side, the still would need graphic knowledge to create a

    layout site that:
    A) Matched the clients request
    B) Used competent typography and useability with the design.

    Finally let's look at "my" site. Our company site, I'm quite embarrassed to state, is over

    2 years old without an update. We haven't even added our best work in at least 6 months?

    Why? Too busy due to very good design and outstanding customer service...something a

    little, spoiled, mama's boy such as yourself wouldn't understand. If you ever live long

    enough to actually be a man and not just be considered one by law, you might figure out

    what I mean.

    So you want to talk shit? I want the website URLs, owner names, and contact information of

    three of your "clients". I want to see what your "eight years" of professional experience

    looks like. I know where the major template sites are so don't try and claim some template

    as your "own design". I want to see your custom work.

    Here's some of our recent work:

    http://www.sunshinestateinsurance.com - Site was desinged to client

    specifications...although I didn't like their idea of a frontpage with different company

    icons they represent it is what they wanted. Go further into the site and start filling out

    the forms and watch CSS and AJAX in action...in ways you couldn't even dream of.

    Site ROI? Under 2 months.

    How about http://www.jenmarinternational.com - This is one of the two largest providers of

    dental lab software in the US. They wanted a site that reflected a dental lab...clean and

    sterile. The site is designed to drive people to their info request forms and contains

    CSS/AJAX as well as a news feature database that is completely text based/idiot proof for

    the client to use and tracks about every aspect of you into a database as you browse

    through the site.

    How about a creative site? Here is the mockup of a site that was just approved by a client:

    http://www.intellectwebsitehosting.com/cc/

    I'll be shocked if you have PERSONALLY designed anything that looks like that.

    I'm not even going to go into details about a site in development that the contract on was

    worth more than your wrecked car and "new" car together.

    I'll tell you what, since you haven't left the 1/2 dozen times you've promised to and

    obviously aren't a man much less a man of your word...your life expectancy would be much

    more promising if you stopped running your mouth about shit you know either nothing or a

    minimal amount about.

    Stop sucking on your parents teat, make a living on your own, then we'll talk.

    GG

    PS: Why does our old site not validate? Due to the livechat mod we had installed but currently disabled. If you knew anything about code and looked at the source, you'd see that.

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  • Sam Browning
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    I think you just bought yourself some trouble that won't go away.

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  • Knightmare
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    Chew on my nuts!

    Haha, jk.

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  • Pandinha
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    Originally posted by Knightmare
    Rofl, yes Anthony. Since I have only been doing this for the past 8 years of my life and have 10+ references to my webdesign work for friends and friends of friends. The last of which was updating a website through CSS.

    And yes GG, you can. It is how I learned most of what I know, besides high school and college.

    And if you want to shell out money to a competent grahpic designer/markup genius go here www.pixelghetto.com

    I wouldn't be wasting my time in places like these.

    He will provide all you need and for about half of 1500.
    2 things stop me from hiring a firm like pixel ghetton.

    1. It's recommended by Knightmare

    2. I have no history of the company's work, time issues, quality, etc.

    Posting on webmaster boards, where I know the designers, or can get info about their work while looking at their portfolios is the quickest way to get my need filled.

    As a creature of habit, I network heavily, and it seems my networking in Vegas this past January helped me get one of the best designers for what I need.

    While I think you tried to be helpful KM, you came off as a prick.

    Chew on that, for what it's worth.

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  • Pandinha
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    Originally posted by Knightmare
    Rofl, yes Anthony. Since I have only been doing this for the past 8 years of my life and have 10+ references to my webdesign work for friends and friends of friends. The last of which was updating a website through CSS.

    And yes GG, you can. It is how I learned most of what I know, besides high school and college.

    And if you want to shell out money to a competent grahpic designer/markup genius go here www.pixelghetto.com

    I wouldn't be wasting my time in places like these.

    He will provide all you need and for about half of 1500.
    Let's ee, last 8 years of your life, that would start you off at 11 or 12...

    Yeah, okay. Thanks.

    The adage, "You get what you pay for", heard of it?

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  • Knightmare
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    Originally posted by Gringo Grande
    Knightmare (and this isnt' an attack on you)...no one reading w3cschools.org is going to be able to make a professional site template in 5 days with no prior experience. w3schools is great to learn about CSS/XHTML/Programming but it doesn't teach graphic design and for an great website you need both...a programmer and a graphic designer.

    Programmers = great working site but it looks like crap
    Graphic Desginers = looks great but works like crap.

    It's why you need a team and why most one person "web design company's" suck ass. I happen to employ 4 graphic designers and two programmers because of this.

    So I'm not quite talking out of my ass =P

    GG
    You should get new programmers then. Your own website doesn't even validate correctly.....

    http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=ht...wgmedia.com%2F

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  • Knightmare
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    Rofl, yes Anthony. Since I have only been doing this for the past 8 years of my life and have 10+ references to my webdesign work for friends and friends of friends. The last of which was updating a website through CSS.

    And yes GG, you can. It is how I learned most of what I know, besides high school and college.

    And if you want to shell out money to a competent grahpic designer/markup genius go here www.pixelghetto.com

    I wouldn't be wasting my time in places like these.

    He will provide all you need and for about half of 1500.

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  • JohnnyCache
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    Originally posted by Knightmare
    Also, just go to www.w3schools.org I think it is and read their HTML tutorial. It'll take an hour max and after reading it you can make your own template to your own needs and wants easily.

    That's where I learned to web design and build websites.

    Or you can do what I used to do. Find a website that closest resembles what you want. Steal their source code Right Click>View Source>Highlight Source>Right Click>Copy and tweak what you want.

    He's not looking to brighten up his myspace profile, KM, he's looking to kick ass and fold lettuce.

    When he says "Monday" he means it has to look perfect, work perfect, and accept his content with no glitches at 7 am on monday morning, and 19 years and a web tute is not what he's after, unless the guy is a prodigy.

    Dilletantism in the tech sector is starting to become a pet peeve of mine. . .also it is http://www.w3schools.com as .org is a link warehouse.

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  • Pandinha
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    Originally posted by Gringo Grande
    Knightmare (and this isnt' an attack on you)...no one reading w3cschools.org is going to be able to make a professional site template in 5 days with no prior experience. w3schools is great to learn about CSS/XHTML/Programming but it doesn't teach graphic design and for an great website you need both...a programmer and a graphic designer.

    Programmers = great working site but it looks like crap
    Graphic Desginers = looks great but works like crap.

    It's why you need a team and why most one person "web design company's" suck ass. I happen to employ 4 graphic designers and two programmers because of this.

    So I'm not quite talking out of my ass =P

    GG
    I am sorry bro, I forgot about your firm. We will do business in the future, as we always have surplus deisgns needed.

    Thanks for contacting me. :)

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