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    They should just fire the freaking transit workers and hire new ones. (rant)

    except for the mechanics and some other skilled jobs, it is basically unskilled labor.

    Does anyone even support these illegal acts?

    All they are doing is hurting poorer people who live in the outer boroughs who must rely on public transportation. Then I hear some guy on the radio crying about his kids? What about the children of the millions of others who are now affected because of you you selfish bastard?

    If you don't like your job you aren't bieng forced to work in this industry.

    Whiny babies whose union daddy doesn't have mayor Kotch to treat them with kid gloves this time. One of the few things about bloomberg is that he has his own money and doens't need political support.

    #2
    Unions are no longer necessary and have outgrown their original purpose. They fester hoseshit like this.

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      #3
      Originally posted by PEtrainer
      Unions are no longer necessary and have outgrown their original purpose. They fester hoseshit like this.

      Agreed. They had their place and purpose once, but now they are havens for neo-socialist groupthink. Any system designed to reward longvity over quality is destined for medicrity at best. When the only way advance within your profession is to outlast the person one rung up from you, and any attempt to excel or display of ambition is met with reprisals from those whom are shamed by it, the profession is doomed.
      And lo, Kano looked down upon the field and saw the multitudes. Amongst them were the disciples of Uesheba who were greatly vexed at his sayings. And Kano spake: "Do not be concerned with the mote in thy neighbor's eye, when verily thou hast a massive stick in thine ass".

      --Scrolls of Bujutsu: Chapter 5 vs 10-14.

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        #4
        Originally posted by Bluto Blutarsky
        If you don't like your job you aren't bieng forced to work in this industry.
        You aren't forced to take the subway. Call a cab. Or move closer to work.
        You can't make people smarter. You can expose them to information, but your responsibility stops there.

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          #5
          Originally posted by PirateJon
          You aren't forced to take the subway.
          Public transportation in large citites is infrastructure. There is not enough space in NY for everyone to take cabs or live close to their jobs. Public transportation is a necessity.

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            #6
            This is just blowing my mind, here are some basic facts about this strike:



            Just like the air traffic controllers in the 1980's. You would think there would be a lesson learned here.

            The union said the latest MTA offer included annual raises of 3%, 4% and 3.5%; the previous proposal included 3% raises each year. But Toussaint said the union wanted a better offer from the MTA, especially when the agency has a $1bn surplus this year.

            So getting a raise is not good enough? Many private companies have had wage freezes for the last few years due to econmic uncertanties.

            The MTA wants to raise the age at which new employees become eligible for full pension from 55-62, which the union says is unfair.

            Yes it's unfair to expect people to work for a living especially untill the ripe old age of 62, not 55. Fifty freaking five. retired. full pension. very little education and/or skills. You should be lucky to ever retire at all.

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              #7
              This thread needs more socialist lefty hippies.

              Spoiler:
              No it doesn't, but I'm just surprised at its lack thereof.

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                #8
                Originally posted by Skepti-Claus
                This thread needs more socialist lefty hippies.
                Alot of the Pinko Commies are also probably New Yorkers, so they're stuck in traffic right now punching the steering wheel.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by PEtrainer
                  Unions are no longer necessary and have outgrown their original purpose.

                  Yes, because we all know that the local, state, and federal governments and all corporations have all evolved into such magnificent and benevolent entities that only have the utmost respect and the highest regard for the health, safety, and welfare of the workers.

                  :rolleyes:


                  (This is post is not meant as commentary on the current situation in NYC)
                  Calm down, it's only ones and zeros.
                  "Your calm and professional manner of response is really draining all the fun out of this. Can you reply more like Dr. Fagbot or something? Call me some names, mention some sand in my vagina or something of the sort. You can't expect me to come up with reasonable arguments man!" -- MaverickZ

                  "Tom Kagan spins in his grave and the fucking guy isn't even dead yet." -- Snake Plissken

                  My Bullshido fan club threads:
                  Tom Kagan's a big hairy...
                  Tom Kagan can lick my BALLS
                  Tom Kagan teaches _ing __un and bigotry?
                  Tom Kagan: Serious discussion here
                  Lamokio asks the burning question is Tom Kagan a pussy or just cruising for some
                  I'm Dave the gay Kickboxer from Manchester and I have the hots for Tom Kagan
                  TOM KAGAN, OPEN ME, THE MKT ARE COMING FOR YOU ! ARE YOU MAN ENOUGH TO MEET ?
                  ATTN TOM KAGAN
                  World Dominator 'Kagan' in plot to lie about real Kung Fu and Martial Arts
                  Tom Kagan just gave me my third negative rep in a day
                  I am infatuated with Tom Kagan
                  Tom Kagan is a fat balding white guy.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by PirateJon
                    You aren't forced to take the subway. Call a cab. Or move closer to work.

                    Obviously, you have no idea what things cost in NYC.

                    (Again, this is not meant as commentary on the current situation.)
                    Calm down, it's only ones and zeros.
                    "Your calm and professional manner of response is really draining all the fun out of this. Can you reply more like Dr. Fagbot or something? Call me some names, mention some sand in my vagina or something of the sort. You can't expect me to come up with reasonable arguments man!" -- MaverickZ

                    "Tom Kagan spins in his grave and the fucking guy isn't even dead yet." -- Snake Plissken

                    My Bullshido fan club threads:
                    Tom Kagan's a big hairy...
                    Tom Kagan can lick my BALLS
                    Tom Kagan teaches _ing __un and bigotry?
                    Tom Kagan: Serious discussion here
                    Lamokio asks the burning question is Tom Kagan a pussy or just cruising for some
                    I'm Dave the gay Kickboxer from Manchester and I have the hots for Tom Kagan
                    TOM KAGAN, OPEN ME, THE MKT ARE COMING FOR YOU ! ARE YOU MAN ENOUGH TO MEET ?
                    ATTN TOM KAGAN
                    World Dominator 'Kagan' in plot to lie about real Kung Fu and Martial Arts
                    Tom Kagan just gave me my third negative rep in a day
                    I am infatuated with Tom Kagan
                    Tom Kagan is a fat balding white guy.

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Tom Kagan
                      Yes, because we all know that the local, state, and federal governments and all corporations have all evolved into such magnificent and benevolent entities that only have the utmost respect and the highest regard for the health, safety, and welfare of the workers.
                      You mean OSHA.

                      workplace safety

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                        #12
                        http://today.reuters.com/news/newsAr...WYORK-FINE.xml

                        And now the courts are involved, and they are not siding with the union.
                        "Quiet fool before I am kicking the butt!"
                        -My three year old trash talking to me

                        "Integrity can't be bought or sold---you either have it or you don't."
                        -The Honky Tonk Man

                        "If you can't be a shining example, at least be a dire warning."
                        -My Father to me one day

                        "No surprise. Until Aikido sheds its street-brawling, thuggish image, it'll never be mainstream."
                        -Don Gwinn

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by PEtrainer
                          Unions are no longer necessary and have outgrown their original purpose. They fester hoseshit like this.
                          But wouldn't the dissolving of all trade unions pretty much make society revert back to what it was before?

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Shawarma
                            But wouldn't the dissolving of all trade unions pretty much make society revert back to what it was before?

                            Oh, NOOOOOOO, see, once your WARN a corrupt system once it stays fixed for thousands of years. :cry:

                            A few things need to change about unions. My suggestions include treating unions like contract firms and paying them by the job so you don't have to deal with the godawful union hourly slack, for example, but there are still fields and parts of the country where unions are very needed. New york needing to do a little union busting does NOT mean they need to go all over the country.

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Tom Kagan
                              Obviously, you have no idea what things cost in NYC.

                              (Again, this is not meant as commentary on the current situation.)
                              No, I do. Lived in manhatten for about 2 years off central park west with my grannie. Still have family there and go back every great once in a while.


                              The point I was making is that there is nothing forcing you to use that public service. If he hates the unions so much, he should never use it since it supports the union directly.


                              but really it's not about the union at all, it's about him being inconvienced. And for that, i'm so very sorry.
                              You can't make people smarter. You can expose them to information, but your responsibility stops there.

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