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    an ode to nice guys

    Apr. 28, 2005
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    e.Motion

    This is a tribute to the nice guys. The nice guys that finish last, that never become more than friends, that endure hours of whining and bitching about what assholes guys are, while disproving the very point. This is dedicated to those guys who always provide a shoulder to lean on but restrain themselves to tentative hugs, those guys who hold open doors and give reassuring pats on the back and sit patiently outside the changing room at department stores. This is in honor of the guys that obligingly reiterate how cute/beautiful/smart/funny/sexy their female friends are at the appropriate moment, because they know most girls need that litany of support. This is in honor of the guys with open minds, with laid-back attitudes, with honest concern. This is in honor of the guys who respect a girl's every facet, from her privacy to her theology to her clothing style.

    This is for the guys who escort their drunk, bewildered female friends back from parties and never take advantage once they're at her door, for the guys who accompany girls to bars as buffers against the rest of the creepy male population, for the guys who know a girl is fishing for compliments but give them out anyway, for the guys who always play by the rules in a game where the rules favor cheaters, for the guys who are accredited as boyfriend material but somehow don't end up being boyfriends, for all the nice guys who are overlooked, underestimated, and unappreciated, for all the nice guys who are manipulated, misled, and unjustly abandoned, this is for you.

    This is for that time she left 40 urgent messages on your cell phone, and when you called her back, she spent three hours painstakingly dissecting two sentences her boyfriend said to her over dinner. And even though you thought her boyfriend was a chump and a jerk, you assured her that it was all ok and she shouldn't worry about it. This is for that time she interrupted the best killing spree you'd ever orchestrated in GTA3 to rant about a rumor that romantically linked her and the guy she thinks is the most repulsive person in the world. And even though you thought it was immature and you had nothing against the guy, you paused the game for two hours and helped her concoct a counter-rumor to spread around the floor. This is also for that time she didn't have a date, so after numerous vows that there was nothing "serious" between the two of you, she dragged you to a party where you knew nobody, the beer was awful, and she flirted shamelessly with you, justifying each fit of reckless teasing by announcing to everyone: "oh, but we're just friends!" And even though you were invited purely as a symbolic warm body for her ego, you went anyways. Because you're nice like that.

    The nice guys don't often get credit where credit is due. And perhaps more disturbing, the nice guys don't seem to get laid as often as they should. And I wish I could logically explain this trend, but I can't. From what I have observed on campus and what I have learned from talking to friends at other schools and in the workplace, the only conclusion I can form is that many girls are just illogical, manipulative bitches. Many of them claim they just want to date a nice guy, but when presented with such a specimen, they say irrational, confusing things such as "oh, he's too nice to date" or "he would be a good boyfriend but he's not for me" or "he already puts up with so much from me, I couldn't possibly ask him out!" or the most frustrating of all: "no, it would ruin our friendship." Yet, they continue to lament the lack of datable men in the world, and they expect their too-nice-to-date male friends to sympathize and apologize for the men that are jerks. Sorry, guys, girls like that are beyond my ability to fathom. I can't figure out why the connection breaks down between what they say (I want a nice guy!) and what they do (I'm going to sleep with this complete ass now!). But one thing I can do, is say that the nice-guy-finishes-last phenomenon doesn't last forever. There are definitely many girls who grow out of that train of thought and realize they should be dating the nice guys, not taking them for granted. The tricky part is finding those girls, and even trickier, finding the ones that are single.

    So, until those girls are found, I propose a toast to all the nice guys. You know who you are, and I know you're sick of hearing yourself described as ubiquitously nice. But the truth of the matter is, the world needs your patience in the department store, your holding open of doors, your party escorting services, your propensity to be a sucker for a pretty smile. For all the crazy, inane, absurd things you tolerate, for all the situations where you are the faceless, nameless hero, my accolades, my acknowledgement, and my gratitude go out to you. You do have credibility in this society, and your well deserved vindication is coming.
    totoro-san ... world sushi munching champion ...


    #2
    :crybaby2:

    Sooo, how many people are having women troubles on bullshido?

    You could always stop idealising someone you can't have and isn't interested and move on.

    Originally posted by Stickx
    It must suck for legit practitioners of tai chi like Cullion to see their art get all watered down into exercise for seniors.
    Those who esteme qi have no strength. ~ Exposition of Insights into the Thirteen Postures Attrib: Wu Yuxiang founder of Wu style tai chi.

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      #3
      Someone needs a hug! :icon_cry: Seriously though, I know where you are coming from. I finally found one who did appreciate a nice guy.

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        #4
        Since I got muscles I got myself a girlfriend...
        women are so shallow.(yeah yeah men too you rabid feminist)

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          #5
          QUIT YOUR WHINING AND PUMP SOME IRON!

          Seriously...being a doormat is not the same as being a nice guy.

          Anyone visit Heartless Bitches?
          Mr Politically Correct GIJoe6186:
          Fat people disgust me in every way imaginable. I was at Freindly's with my girl tonight and saw a bunch of fat fuckers. I felt sorry for the pavement they were killing and the people who had to see them. .

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            #6
            There are women you fuck and women you love.

            Learn the difference you asswipe.

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              #7
              Originally posted by nasty_totoro
              Apr. 28, 2005
              By
              e.Motion

              This is a tribute to the nice guys. The nice guys that finish last, that never become more than friends, that endure hours of whining and bitching about what assholes guys are, while disproving the very point. This is dedicated to those guys who always provide a shoulder to lean on but restrain themselves to tentative hugs, those guys who hold open doors and give reassuring pats on the back and sit patiently outside the changing room at department stores. This is in honor of the guys that obligingly reiterate how cute/beautiful/smart/funny/sexy their female friends are at the appropriate moment, because they know most girls need that litany of support. This is in honor of the guys with open minds, with laid-back attitudes, with honest concern. This is in honor of the guys who respect a girl's every facet, from her privacy to her theology to her clothing style.

              This is for the guys who escort their drunk, bewildered female friends back from parties and never take advantage once they're at her door, for the guys who accompany girls to bars as buffers against the rest of the creepy male population, for the guys who know a girl is fishing for compliments but give them out anyway, for the guys who always play by the rules in a game where the rules favor cheaters, for the guys who are accredited as boyfriend material but somehow don't end up being boyfriends, for all the nice guys who are overlooked, underestimated, and unappreciated, for all the nice guys who are manipulated, misled, and unjustly abandoned, this is for you.

              This is for that time she left 40 urgent messages on your cell phone, and when you called her back, she spent three hours painstakingly dissecting two sentences her boyfriend said to her over dinner. And even though you thought her boyfriend was a chump and a jerk, you assured her that it was all ok and she shouldn't worry about it. This is for that time she interrupted the best killing spree you'd ever orchestrated in GTA3 to rant about a rumor that romantically linked her and the guy she thinks is the most repulsive person in the world. And even though you thought it was immature and you had nothing against the guy, you paused the game for two hours and helped her concoct a counter-rumor to spread around the floor. This is also for that time she didn't have a date, so after numerous vows that there was nothing "serious" between the two of you, she dragged you to a party where you knew nobody, the beer was awful, and she flirted shamelessly with you, justifying each fit of reckless teasing by announcing to everyone: "oh, but we're just friends!" And even though you were invited purely as a symbolic warm body for her ego, you went anyways. Because you're nice like that.

              The nice guys don't often get credit where credit is due. And perhaps more disturbing, the nice guys don't seem to get laid as often as they should. And I wish I could logically explain this trend, but I can't. From what I have observed on campus and what I have learned from talking to friends at other schools and in the workplace, the only conclusion I can form is that many girls are just illogical, manipulative bitches. Many of them claim they just want to date a nice guy, but when presented with such a specimen, they say irrational, confusing things such as "oh, he's too nice to date" or "he would be a good boyfriend but he's not for me" or "he already puts up with so much from me, I couldn't possibly ask him out!" or the most frustrating of all: "no, it would ruin our friendship." Yet, they continue to lament the lack of datable men in the world, and they expect their too-nice-to-date male friends to sympathize and apologize for the men that are jerks. Sorry, guys, girls like that are beyond my ability to fathom. I can't figure out why the connection breaks down between what they say (I want a nice guy!) and what they do (I'm going to sleep with this complete ass now!). But one thing I can do, is say that the nice-guy-finishes-last phenomenon doesn't last forever. There are definitely many girls who grow out of that train of thought and realize they should be dating the nice guys, not taking them for granted. The tricky part is finding those girls, and even trickier, finding the ones that are single.

              So, until those girls are found, I propose a toast to all the nice guys. You know who you are, and I know you're sick of hearing yourself described as ubiquitously nice. But the truth of the matter is, the world needs your patience in the department store, your holding open of doors, your party escorting services, your propensity to be a sucker for a pretty smile. For all the crazy, inane, absurd things you tolerate, for all the situations where you are the faceless, nameless hero, my accolades, my acknowledgement, and my gratitude go out to you. You do have credibility in this society, and your well deserved vindication is coming.
              :love9:
              What are you? Gay??? (Fully kidding)
              Women are mostly insane, the key is to find the one or two that aren't hyper-dramatic harpies, and good luck doing that. In conclusion, I agree with ronin69.
              Oh, and another thing

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                #8
                no wonder they say martial artists are humourless bums ... :icon_mrgr
                totoro-san ... world sushi munching champion ...

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by ronin69
                  There are women you fuck and women you love.

                  Learn the difference you asswipe.
                  Damned, you are soo rugged....

                  Let me try to run this through my wife..

                  Tomas
                  Current stage of death: denial

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by nasty_totoro
                    no wonder they say martial artists are humourless bums ... :icon_mrgr

                    Hey, if you've been kicked in the nuts and choked out, you'd have no sense of humour too !!

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                      #11
                      I would like to take a moment to express just how sick of this attitude that I am. This feeling that nice guys are entitled to pussy. But of course, women are all bitches who only go for the guys who walk all over them and blah blah blah I don't want to fucking hear it . Do you not see the total irony here? Women only want men who use them for their bodies and walk all over them--and they're bad--while "nice guys" play nice to girls who don't care about them or their feelings, getting walked over in the SAME FUCKING WAY, and they deserve accolades. In both situations, one is using the other for the thing they want, while the used person isn't having their wishes fulfilled. You're not special, "nice guy". You're part of the same damn system. And it's time to move on.

                      If you're not going to be friends with a girl because you like them as a genuine friend, if you're there because you're praying for the day you can snag some vagina, then you need to move on, because you aren't doing anyone favors. If you're being honest with yourself--that you're into this girl because you want to be her lover/boyfriend/fuck buddy/etc-- then you need to take a hint. If she has a jerk boyfriend, there is nothing you can do. Women have a hard enough time convincing their girlfriends that their men are chumps, so don't expect to be better at it on account of your penis. Girls who date gross men can't be convinced by anyone but time and experience. But I digress. If a woman is taken, you're not going to get her. It just happens that way. If she's not dating you, and you wish she were, just go. Move on. Scoot. If you're solely interested in friendship, then this probably wouldn't be a problem for you.

                      The point here is that you have to take some of the responsiblity for yourself. Take a look at who you are desperately waiting on. There are cruel people of both sexes, and we will all get caught up in it at some point. Take this one example: Kristen. We lived on our all-girl floor together our first year in college. Every night she had all the boys over (her roommate had been taken in by a cult, so she was free to have company quite often). Every night, they tried to get into her pants. She had guy friends over. She would complain "oh, but nobody likes me. Oh where oh where shall I find a man!?". She is the exact girl you are bitching about. She played the bimbo role perfectly. She let the baseball players slap her ass because it was funny, but she would wine to the genuinely "nice guys". But where any of those "nice guys" over hanging out with me? Fuck no. Did it bother me? No. But were they blinded by big boobs and a ditzy attitude? You betcha. If those guys were really "nice guys" they would probably have also been passengers on the beka train.

                      Let me also add that I am with one of the REAL nice guys out there. He played Dungeons and Dragons in high school. He was a nerd of the highest degree. He had long hair, was fat, awkward, and learned about computers. He worked at a game store before briefly doing the computer tech thing, and didn't lose his virginity until he was 22. He has never been to a strip club, and doesn't watch football games and drink crappy American pilsener (we actually brew beer together). He works 11 hour days and comes home every night to me, where we kiss and hug and hold each other until tomorrow when he goes out to work again, all so we can have it a little bit better. I've dated jerky guys, but only briefly. When their jerk-factor becomes apparent, they are quickly tossed overboard.

                      I really do resent it when all women are tossed into the same box marked "manipulators". Bullshit. You're just not willing to get over yourself enough to look in the right places.

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                        #12
                        HEY PATHETIC VIRGINS! Here's a site just for you:

                        http://www.intellectualwhores.com/masterladder.html

                        This could only be written by a man who hasn't touched vagina since the day he was born, but you'll swear he's the smartest guy who ever lived until you finally manage to get your dick wet. Have fun.

                        Originally posted by beka
                        If a woman is taken, you're not going to get her.
                        That's certainly not an absolute.

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                          #13
                          Bro,

                          It's one thing to be nice, but it's another to be used. Sounds you are being used, and it's one way.

                          I found a great way to end this nice guy/friend syndrome. When you meet a girl, and it's that stage of going either way, let her know right off the bat, you have enough friends.

                          Saves you the aggravation.

                          It also shows you are a man. :)
                          Originally posted by Sifu Rudy Abel
                          "Just what makes a pure grappler think he can survive with an experienced striker. Especially if that striker isn't following any particular rule set and is well aware of what the grapplers strategies are".

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                            #14
                            Stop crying and go find a slut. There's lots of them.
                            Tough is not how you act, tough is how you train.

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                              #15
                              Virgins are so funny.

                              Wah wah wah. Get laid and SHUT THE FUCK UP.
                              Mr Politically Correct GIJoe6186:
                              Fat people disgust me in every way imaginable. I was at Freindly's with my girl tonight and saw a bunch of fat fuckers. I felt sorry for the pavement they were killing and the people who had to see them. .

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