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    #16
    Remember, Judo is a subset of JJJ, so it will contain damn near everything you see in BJJ. Somewhere along the way Judo got watered down to what we see now.

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      #17
      Other than the first picture of the leglock, I see nothing I haven't already tried at least once.
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        #18
        That leglock looks also to be close to a splice.

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          #19
          the leglock is very similar to the "step over toe hold" practiced in catch wrestling as well as being used by pro wrestlers.
          STP, anyone?
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            #20
            If she drops her weight to the shin and leans forward is it then going to be like a splice?

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              #21
              Toe Hold

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                #22
                Originally posted by Dochter
                If she drops her weight to the shin and leans forward is it then going to be like a splice?
                I was thinking the same thing.

                BUT
                1. I understand the shin bone ain't likely gonna snap from that.
                2. It looks more like a rolling leg lock that attacks the knee joint. The knee joints I also understand is more susceptible to strains than the elbow.

                So similar motion different outcome...thoughts?
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                  #23
                  Someone once told me judo has no crucifix:

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                    #24
                    Pizdoff: I've heard that you're knee will explode with that leglock. I believe PeeDee mentioned it once on here, saying that it was the most dangerous leglock because it fucks up the whole joint, not just a particular ligament or something. I think he said he saw that happen to someone at a submission wrestling tournament and he's never seen the guy since.
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                      #25
                      O.k then. So what would Japanes Ju Jutsu have that Judo does not have in terms of groundfighting ? Is it the same of does JJJ use more choke holds ?

                      People say Judo is Ju Jutsu with all of the nasty stuff taken out but the updates courtesy of Ronin here look nasty enough to me.
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                        #26
                        Looks like shit I'm doing in judo right now, but more importantly this lady can put her hand on my ass any time she wants! :D
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                          #27
                          Isn't that a guy?

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                            #28
                            I think I can see some cleavage in there Zeddy.. lol
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                              #29
                              I really never knew that Judo had leg locks! Is this being used in judocompetitions? Cause I never learned that technique in judo, only in jiu-jitsu

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                                #30
                                Hey, I upped the gamma to check... no bouncy bouncy... ;)

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