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  • goodlun
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    Originally posted by hungryjoe View Post
    Meanwhile, regular people the world over are pulling together to help others.
    Its been my experience that, isn't all that unusual. People are largely social creatures with a built in tribal mentality with all the good and the bad of that.

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  • Lily
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    Originally posted by Dung Beatles View Post
    I found this to be extremely informative. He breaks it down with a graph and careful discussion. I enjoyed it alot.

    Thought it might have been a two minute video, but nooOoOoo, it just had to be 29 minutes. Again sir, I don’t have time, give me the highlights!

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  • hungryjoe
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    Meanwhile, regular people the world over are pulling together to help others.

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  • Bneterasedmynam
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    Originally posted by PDA View Post

    LOL you really are scraping the barrel of late .
    Your own PD keep posting the so called "weapon" caches they find. I'm not the retard that considers screwdrivers and coat hangers to be dangerous weapons. I point it out because I care and want the people of England to fight for their rights against the oppressive regime that rules them. Remember it wasn't my country that put one of it's own citizens in a re-education camp because he blamed a Muslim for attacking him on a bridge. Seriously your country is fucked up, I'll take Trump any day over the forced serfdom England has.

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  • Dung Beatles
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    I found this to be extremely informative. He breaks it down with a graph and careful discussion. I enjoyed it alot.

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  • Dung Beatles
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    Originally posted by PDA View Post

    LOL you really are scraping the barrel of late .
    I think he's just messing with you. If there is one universal constant, it is the tender pride of the English. England is one of the greatest nations on Earth and has been the backbone of responsible civilization for hundreds of years. Take any criticism with a grain of salt.

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  • PDA
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    Originally posted by Bneterasedmynam View Post

    That's just standard operating procedure for the UK. Fucking hell bike tires are considered illegal weapons in that shithole muslim nation.
    LOL you really are scraping the barrel of late .

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  • PDA
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    Originally posted by goodlun View Post
    Interesting:
    I personally find this disturbing:

    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/c...snSe3LeJ2pNT6c

    Very disturbing.... even during these sorts of crisis this sort of reach is over reach.
    It is , I wonder how many of these things carry over into normal practice when this is over .

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  • Bneterasedmynam
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    Originally posted by goodlun View Post
    Interesting:
    I personally find this disturbing:

    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/c...snSe3LeJ2pNT6c

    Very disturbing.... even during these sorts of crisis this sort of reach is over reach.
    That's just standard operating procedure for the UK. Fucking hell bike tires are considered illegal weapons in that shithole muslim nation.

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  • goodlun
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    Interesting:
    I personally find this disturbing:

    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/c...snSe3LeJ2pNT6c

    Very disturbing.... even during these sorts of crisis this sort of reach is over reach.

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  • Dung Beatles
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    Originally posted by Michael Tzadok View Post

    I'm honestly not seeing strong leadership there. Evictions- that will be up to the courts. Larger gatherings, we've asked people not to, but we understand weddings and such are important, maybe try to wait for the big ceremony. Oh and if we follow these things we will flatten the curve some, but we are going to see a peak where we are getting 6000-8000 new infections per day and our heal care system will collapse exceed capacity.
    I picked that almost at random because good leadership isn't filled with bombast and self-praise. The point is getting the hard work done and reassuring the public with concrete measures sans self congratulatory nonsense.

    Good leadership requires a measure of stoicism and restraint sans egotistical feeding and self dealing.

    There are lots of people in our government showing good leadership every day. Trump isn't one of them.

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  • Michael Tzadok
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    Originally posted by Dung Beatles View Post

    Republican Governor of Ohio, Mike DeWine

    https://www.pbs.org/newshour/health/...virus-update-2


    Edit: Do you see what he did here that's different than the POTUS? He spent his time assuring the public, he never heaped praises on himself, didn't attack his perceived enemies and he didn't offer up some pie-in-the-sky fantasy about some new cure or everything being just fine.

    He talked about doing the work, he talked about direct action, he talked about taking charge of the situation and never wasted time trying to make everything about himself or his political rivals.

    Trump can't do this anywhere, at any time.

    He cannot lead. He does not know how to lead. He's a useless whiney silver spoon trust fund man-child with delusions of grandeur and possibly has the most vicious insecurity complex of any democratically elected President in any Western country for the last 100 years.
    I'm honestly not seeing strong leadership there. Evictions- that will be up to the courts. Larger gatherings, we've asked people not to, but we understand weddings and such are important, maybe try to wait for the big ceremony. Oh and if we follow these things we will flatten the curve some, but we are going to see a peak where we are getting 6000-8000 new infections per day and our heal care system will collapse exceed capacity.

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  • Dung Beatles
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    Originally posted by Michael Tzadok View Post

    You got Cuomo saying that he would consider an attempted Federal Quarrantine of New York(where there are about a third of the cases) an act of war. I don't even know WTF that means... Pretty much every POS in political leadership right now has shown quite definitively that they put their political affiliations and scoring political points above the welfare of the American people. Find me one who hasn't and then we will talk.
    Republican Governor of Ohio, Mike DeWine

    https://www.pbs.org/newshour/health/...virus-update-2


    Edit: Do you see what he did here that's different than the POTUS? He spent his time assuring the public, he never heaped praises on himself, didn't attack his perceived enemies and he didn't offer up some pie-in-the-sky fantasy about some new cure or everything being just fine.

    He talked about doing the work, he talked about direct action, he talked about taking charge of the situation and never wasted time trying to make everything about himself or his political rivals.

    Trump can't do this anywhere, at any time.

    He cannot lead. He does not know how to lead. He's a useless whiney silver spoon trust fund man-child with delusions of grandeur and possibly has the most vicious insecurity complex of any democratically elected President in any Western country for the last 100 years.
    Last edited by Dung Beatles; 3/29/2020 10:18am, .

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  • Michael Tzadok
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    Originally posted by Dung Beatles View Post
    Not only but he certain has the lion's share of the blame.

    When the President of the United States tells people it's a hoax and it'll just go away on it's own, that is taken as direct guidance from the Oval Office.

    Everything the POTUS says is guidance. That's how it is in America. People listen to Presidents and set their agendas and beliefs accordingly.

    According to one of greatest Republican presidents, Eisenhower, the buck stops with the President.

    The President's words, actions and agenda become the words, actions and agenda for the entire US Gov't. This gambling people have done on getting what they could out of a wrothless mung gargling bastard like Trump has been a catastrophe.

    Sure, we all share some of the blame because we're all cogs in the yadda, yadda machine but in the end, by all means, the higher elected officials take the higher share of the blame. What power the President cannot use because it belongs to the governors should be buttressed by LEADERSHIP at the top.

    If it comes to declaration of Martial Law with this tin pot dictator wannabe, I'd rather take my chances with the virus. If suspension of constitutional rights is the only way this dick stroking numbskull can get anything done then he's not fit to sit in high office.
    Even if he had declared it a national emergency from the beginning, all he could do without the support of Congress is to stand in front of a camera and babble. So you can't say he owns the lion's share of anything. FFS most of the Republican party said it was a hoax when the Dems were saying it was the Apocalypse, yet how many motions did Pelosi put forward in Congress to get the ball rolling on martial law?

    You got Cuomo saying that he would consider an attempted Federal Quarrantine of New York(where there are about a third of the cases) an act of war. I don't even know WTF that means... Pretty much every POS in political leadership right now has shown quite definitively that they put their political affiliations and scoring political points above the welfare of the American people. Find me one who hasn't and then we will talk.

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  • Dung Beatles
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    Not only but he certain has the lion's share of the blame.

    When the President of the United States tells people it's a hoax and it'll just go away on it's own, that is taken as direct guidance from the Oval Office.

    Everything the POTUS says is guidance. That's how it is in America. People listen to Presidents and set their agendas and beliefs accordingly.

    According to one of greatest Republican presidents, Eisenhower, the buck stops with the President.

    The President's words, actions and agenda become the words, actions and agenda for the entire US Gov't. This gambling people have done on getting what they could out of a wrothless mung gargling bastard like Trump has been a catastrophe.

    Sure, we all share some of the blame because we're all cogs in the yadda, yadda machine but in the end, by all means, the higher elected officials take the higher share of the blame. What power the President cannot use because it belongs to the governors should be buttressed by LEADERSHIP at the top.

    If it comes to declaration of Martial Law with this tin pot dictator wannabe, I'd rather take my chances with the virus. If suspension of constitutional rights is the only way this dick stroking numbskull can get anything done then he's not fit to sit in high office.

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