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    Originally posted by BKR View Post
    Uncle Ho asked the US for help, and we told him to fuck off.
    To be fair though he deserved far worse.

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      Originally posted by patfromlogan View Post
      Vietnam is not poor.
      That's very informative, thanks. I've always wanted to visit Vietnam and Cambodia to scope out their beaches for a nice little retirement shack in the middle of nowhere. My plan has always been to become a rural hermit near some sandy beach with clean water.

      Edit: I'm aware that they do not allow foreigners to buy land but they will allow you to buy an apartment or put up a small business IIRC.

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        Goodlum, your pro Israel views make me sad. Like calling Iran evil. Was that before the US destroyed their Democracy? Israel is strangling Gaza economically and militarily, and that has created one of the worst humanitarian crises anywhere in the world. I have been in Hebron. Go read Noam Chomsky and get broadened
        "Preparing mentally, the most important thing is, if you aren't doing it for the love of it, then don't do it." - Benny Urquidez

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          Originally posted by patfromlogan View Post
          Goodlum, your pro Israel views make me sad. Like calling Iran evil. Was that before the US destroyed their Democracy? Israel is strangling Gaza economically and militarily, and that has created one of the worst humanitarian crises anywhere in the world. I have been in Hebron. Go read Noam Chomsky and get broadened
          It is possible to support Israel, and Israel's continued existence,

          and to have sympathies for the humanitarian situation for many Palestinians,

          and to also realize that the leaders of Palestine have an economic stranglehold on their own people as well.

          And prolong the situation.

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            Originally posted by patfromlogan View Post
            Goodlum, your pro Israel views make me sad. Like calling Iran evil. Was that before the US destroyed their Democracy? Israel is strangling Gaza economically and militarily, and that has created one of the worst humanitarian crises anywhere in the world. I have been in Hebron. Go read Noam Chomsky and get broadened
            Oh fucking fuckity fuck. If the people of the Gaza strip want peace all they have to do is STOP BEING FUCKING TERRORISTS seriously it's that simple. Do you really expect anyone to cry over a bunch of bigoted pricks getting missle enemas because they can't play nice with those outside of their batshit circle??

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              Originally posted by Dr. Gonzo View Post
              It is possible to support Israel, and Israel's continued existence,

              and to have sympathies for the humanitarian situation for many Palestinians,

              and to also realize that the leaders of Palestine have an economic stranglehold on their own people as well.

              And prolong the situation.
              No it isn't, because the Palestinians do not fucking want the continued existence of Israel.

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                Originally posted by ghost55 View Post
                The people in Vietnam live in abject poverty because we bombed it to shit and just left without doing any cleanup or rebuilding anything.
                They didn't exactly want us to stick around, dude.

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                  Originally posted by Dung Beatles View Post
                  They didn't exactly want us to stick around, dude.
                  Some did, but the hippies poisoned the well.

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                    Originally posted by Bneterasedmynam View Post
                    No it isn't, because the Palestinians do not fucking want the continued existence of Israel.
                    There is a difference between a people's government, and the people.

                    I do not like the Palestinian government, but a don't care if a child is Palestinian or American or Israeli when it comes to the welfare of children.

                    And it is always the children that suffer for the foolishness or inaction or actions of the adults they are born to.

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                      Originally posted by Bneterasedmynam View Post
                      No it isn't, because the Palestinians do not fucking want the continued existence of Israel.
                      And that is all Israel's fault, doncha know !

                      Yassar Arafat something something...Pan Arabism, something something...Yom Kippur something something...6 Day War...oh shit wait a minute 1948 war...

                      Sorry, we tried to wipe Israel off the face of the earth more than once, got our asses kicked, now we want a mulligan.

                      sorry, no, Israel does not have any right to exist...


                      Because u no, it's the fair thing to do.

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                        Originally posted by patfromlogan View Post
                        Was that before the US destroyed their Democracy?
                        Couldn't have been a strong democracy if all it took was $100,000s

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                          Originally posted by Bneterasedmynam View Post
                          Maybe with China, but Russia?? Do they even have a total of 800 million anymore, let alone per year??
                          Quick answer yes, this is not Russia after the fall of the USSR.

                          Full explanation below..

                          The Russian Federation is one of the lowest ranked countries concerning their National debt.
                          http://worldpopulationreview.com/cou...national-debt/

                          Russia’s debt ratio is one of the lowest in the world at 19.48% of its GDP. Russia is the ninth least indebted country in the world. Russia’s debt is currently at a total of over 14 billion руб ($216 billion USD). Most of Russia’s external debt is private.
                          Here are their GNI and GDP, but your results may vary.

                          http://www.worldeconomics.com/grossd...uct/russia.gdp
                          RUSSIA GDP: 3,459 TRILLION INTERNATIONAL DOLLARS (2018)
                          https://www.investopedia.com/insight...top-economies/

                          Russia Nominal GDP: $1.63 trillion
                          Russia GDP (PPP): $4.21 trillion
                          Go read Pat’s post and then mine one more time. Those numbers are billions, not millions. So, yes, 800 million would be and is nothing. If you meant “billions” it would be more than the US spends, which I never stated. If I was unclear, I do not believe we spend 10x more money than Russia on military budgeting. As I said, the US leads, but the gap is closer Than the numbers originally posted.

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                            Originally posted by ghost55 View Post
                            The people in Vietnam live in abject poverty because we bombed it to shit and just left without doing any cleanup or rebuilding anything.
                            Ummmmm because the communists won. We can't rebuild if they are still shooting dude.
                            Besides why would they want any of our capitalist Pig money?

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                              Originally posted by Bneterasedmynam View Post
                              Some did, but the hippies poisoned the well.
                              Yeah, lots of South Viet wanted us to stay but they no longer had much say in the matter and the Northern forces moving South weren't likely to be very receptive to the idea.

                              Edit: The resentment against Western colonizers in Vietnam was pretty significant at the time and many patriotic Vietnamese feared their nation would be divided up as the spoils of another country.

                              It really was a war for independence to many Vietnamese.
                              Last edited by Dung Beatles; 1/03/2020 2:33pm, .

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                                Originally posted by Raycetpfl View Post
                                Ummmmm because the communists won. We can't rebuild if they are still shooting dude.
                                Besides why would they want any of our capitalist Pig money?
                                Oh, they want our money, they just don't want us to have any say in how they spend it.

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