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Originally posted by W. Rabbit View PostSeriously, I'm trying to figure out in my head how you spot a short range radar system lock inside another country, outside that country's busiest airport. At low altitude.
Right now all I can come up with is magic Harry Potter goggles.
Help.
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Originally posted by ghost55 View PostFrequency used for M1 SAM launchers is distinct from that used by ATC and civilian aircraft, and we have a ton of sensors aimed at every fucking airstrip in the country?
If we got all these sensors, radar and counter radar pointed at Iran, why did NORAD have to detect the missile launches at the bases?
Like seriously, we have in theater things that are worried about AA batteries, but not ballistic missiles. The Titanic had fewer holes in it than your theories.
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Originally posted by ghost55 View PostFrequency used for M1 SAM launchers is distinct from that used by ATC and civilian aircraft, and we have a ton of sensors aimed at every fucking airstrip in the country?
For fun, the SA-15 uses K band (microwave) and H band (infrared) for tracking.
And I'm positive that any SAM batteries outside Tehran track incoming and departing flights all the time. So if all the evidence is a radar lock, it's circumstantial.
Which reminds me, why would an Iranian AA battery think a target moving away from Tehran might be a threat?
Maybe there should be an actual investigation or something. This isn't CSI: Iran.Last edited by W. Rabbit; 1/09/2020 3:27pm, .
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I am literally an intermediate to expert on Satellite Communications, Radar and Sonar.
I had the same thought as Rabbit.
That this would be one hell of a SIGINT feat.
I don't rule it completely out, you could place some higher end SDRs inside of an intelligence asset in the area.
It is pretty easy to have passive antennas listening in on things.
HOWEVER that is highly unlikely, as you do have to develop other types of assets in order to install these sorts of things and the risk to reward for those assets isn't favorable at all.
When you think of RF you really have to think about the Inverse square law.
This is where math and physics start to really get in the way.
A lot of these systems are using small wavelength rf bands so that they get better resolution.
But you start to lose a lot of information really fast with them as well.
Especially with atmospheric attenuation.
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Originally posted by W. Rabbit View PostFor fun, the SA-15 uses K band (microwave) and H band (infrared) for tracking.
We even run into issues of Weather related Attenuation with Ka Band Sat comms.
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Even now, it's important to keep in mind this video does not clearly show what's being concluded. We are still working on a theory with no smoking gun but maybe some circumstantial video and intel.
A better video might make things clearer, but this is low quality, amateur stuff from miles away.
A missile? Maybe. An explosion, definitely.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/09/v...e-missile.htmlLast edited by W. Rabbit; 1/09/2020 3:45pm, .
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Originally posted by submessenger View PostThis is a great jab
at Gonzo's posting style, so
I must call it out.
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Originally posted by Michael Tzadok View PostWhat motive would Iran have for picking a fight with the Ukraine when Europe is intent on sitting this one out?
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