Iran War now? Yea or nay?

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Great counter point.

Still I have major issues with the US paying more of a percentage of the NATO budget than say Germany or France.

I completely agree.

There is a reason for their failure to cough up and that is because their agenda is not aligned with NATO.

Hence their rallying to criticize the US strike on Soulimani whilst the UK PM refused to do the same.

The pro EU press here are saying it is because of the trade deal Boris Johnson wants to do with with the US which is partly true but it is also because well most the the UK government probably think it was a great idea and I would be real money that Boris Johnson did know about it and gave his support for it privately hence not coming back from his holiday early as he was expecting it and thus wasnt shocked into doing anything immediately.

[It is Fake]

Yep. Before my family moved to Japan, years ago, my great grandfather sat my dad down and lectured him about how you can't trust any "Japs". He refused to talk to us on the phone while we were there because they were listening to him on the phone, it went on an on. All I knew was how similar all my Japanese friends were, how hot Japanese women are, and how much I loved their culture. I think my great grandfather was a biased, but I also take into account that he was a pilot in the navy stationed at Pearle Harbor on 12/07/41.

Shit many Blacks still teach their kids to be careful of white people and it is 2020.


It is biased, but just yesterday a friend basically said “we go fight overseas to wipe out racists, why haven’t we done the same to the KKK.” A so called white friend called him Kap Jr., promptly posted a 2014 video about race from Morgan Freeman and then told him to listen. Also, told him he hopes he won’t talk/post about things like this anymore.

The irony.

Another said well the democrats started the KKK, posted a picture of Biden with a KKK dude from 2003 and told him to “read.”

The fucking irony.

He answered both saying “I am not spreading blame everyone is guilty.” Neither did what they told him to do and posted “fake news.”

Sadly, confirmation bias sucks. He has a friend who is white and they have traveled all over the US to multiple baseball parks. He works with many who have his back. His kids are biracial.

Still, We all know which two he used to confirm his bias against all white people.

I know it isn’t Pearl Harbor level, but ignorance doesn’t need levels to be confirmed.

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Trump to make an address in a little over an hour...

https://www.c-span.org/video/?467950...e-attacks-iraq

[Dr. Gonzo]

Current reporting, as of 5 mins ago, was mechanical failure. But, as a technologist, I do have a hard time believing in unrelated coincidence. Especially when emotions are running high, I think it's fair to give alternate explanations a fair amount of scrutiny.

(edit) I remain unconvinced that TWA800 was an accident; I was "there."

Ukraine refuses to rule out a shoot down at the current time.

However, besides the explanation of sheer coincidence,

there is also the chance that the heightened alert pulled or distracted resources away from the mechanical safety checks and protocols.

Or that an individual or group with their own agenda decided to execute an act of mechanical sabotage or shot it down, etc,

versus official Iranian action of same.

Clusterfucks happen, and so do individual criminals, and splinter factions.

[Dr. Gonzo]

The problem is not that the EU isnt paying its way it is that NATO members do not pay their way or pull their weight.

The solution therefore is not to create a new army but simply to pay what they have committed.

If they have an EU army they are effectively saying that they are unwilling to pay into their own military for their individual nations defense and to satisfy NATO obligations but will put it into this other thing that they can then use whenever bypassing their domestic parliaments is necessary.

Great counter point.

Still I have major issues with the US paying more of a percentage of the NATO budget than say Germany or France.