Iran War now? Yea or nay?

[W. Rabbit]

That last part is what is worrying a lot of people, when considered in the reverse. Who can Iran reach at a moment's notice? Probably everyone here. We already know how they hunt down and silence dissidents.

The Qud cyber units have been stalking US military and civilian targets online for years. Hacking email, collecting personal info...family info... 10,000 accounts targeted at Microsofts account services alone.

They are more than capable of carrying out their own assassinations. So, they are capable of sending their own messages, too.

[W. Rabbit]

You never make a lady ask twice.

If that stupid fucker puts his head in the crosshairs, unless he is surrounded by children, or walking through a hospital, you send him to Paradise, with a first class ticket.

Look at you virtue signalling...

Seriously though, children and hospitals never stopped us before.

And it would have been nice to see him in Gitmo orange. That definitely sends a better message than "we can blow you up". They already know that.

[goodlun]

And it would have been nice to see him in Gitmo orange. That definitely sends a better message than "we can blow you up". They already know that.

The real message I think is we can blow YOU up with that YOU being the Ayatollah.

[W. Rabbit]

WW3 thing trending is good, it shows Iran that we are prepared as a society. Even when the tweets and memes are anti-war it shows we just sort of accepted it.
This is means Iran needs to step carefully.

Not to mention, internal dissidence in Iran is at an all time high, largely thanks to the internet.

Reading some English/Farsi Twitter feeds is telling...there are quite a few Iranians glad this man is gone. Especially Iranian-Americans, but also young Iranians who are quickly replacing the aging theocracy hardliners.

[W. Rabbit]

The real message I think is we can blow YOU up with that YOU being the Ayatollah.

Can we though? Is President Trump any safer than the Supreme Leader? If regime change in Iran were that easy we'd have done it decades ago. Cut off a head..

They are threatening to attack the White House. If I hadn't witnessed 9/11, I might not believe it possible. But I saw the Twin Towers fall on live TV, and a jetliner smash into the Pentagon.

The president spends most of his time at a resort in Florida. Not necessarily the hardest of targets, Mar-A-Lago. The last time I was in front of the White House a few years ago, they evacuated Lafayette Square. Security there is tight. No golf course on Earth compares...

[goodlun]

Can we though? Is President Trump any safer than the Supreme Leader? If regime change in Iran were that easy we'd have done it decades ago. Cut off a head..

They are threatening to attack the White House. If I hadn't witnessed 9/11, I might not believe it possible. But I saw the Twin Towers fall on live TV, and a jetliner smash into the Pentagon.

The president spends most of his time at a resort in Florida. Not necessarily the hardest of targets, Mar-A-Lago. The last time I was in front of the White House a few years ago, they evacuated Lafayette Square. Security there is tight. No golf course on Earth compares...

Oh we could have dropped a bomb on him for years now. The problem is, that is an overt act of war. Something we have not been willing to do, is commit an act of war. However if Iran wants to escalate to that point, that guy is dead.

[BKR]

Every generation has pending apocalypse fears.

Apocalypse narratives are like candy filled with sweet booze to people in both poor and developed nations.

So these fears and narratives will always exist in every generation, it's just a question of which wrapper the desired candy is dressed in.

My kids were asking me about the Iran thing yesterday. Interesting breakfast conversation.

The FUD is running pretty hard at their high school, with WW3 memes rampant. They asked me about getting drafted, and my reply was "ain't gonna happen". I then explained how we do not have to do a land invasion of Iran, and that would be silly, and why.

Neither of them has any desire to be a war hero or go kill brown people.

They also commented that they hoped that no one gets deferrals for college if a draft happens.

Or "bone spurs", LOL!

[BKR]

How about Hunter Biden? How old is he ?

[BKR]

That last part is what is worrying a lot of people, when considered in the reverse. Who can Iran reach at a moment's notice? Probably everyone here. We already know how they hunt down and silence dissidents.

The Qud cyber units have been stalking US military and civilian targets online for years. Hacking email, collecting personal info...family info... 10,000 accounts targeted at Microsofts account services alone.

They are more than capable of carrying out their own assassinations. So, they are capable of sending their own messages, too.

Well, if they do that, it is going to be lights out for Iran.

At this point, we should probably just go ahead and take out their nuke facilities.

We may take casualties, but they really can't win.

[W. Rabbit]

Oh we could have dropped a bomb on him for years now. The problem is, that is an overt act of war. Something we have not been willing to do, is commit an act of war. However if Iran wants to escalate to that point, that guy is dead.

But Iranian air defenses prevent us from bombing inside the country. We couldn't just bomb Saddam, either.

But inside Iraq, we have had air superiority there for a long time.

Killing the general was an overt act of war for sure, but it was only possible because he (rather foolishly) entered Baghdad with impunity.

That last part makes me wonder if it's at all possible he knew he might die, and went anyway knowing that a military strike on him might only embolden Iran's hardline hawks and paint the US as the aggressor, something the clerical leadership has used effectively against us since I was a boy.

[BKR]

Can we though? Is President Trump any safer than the Supreme Leader? If regime change in Iran were that easy we'd have done it decades ago. Cut off a head..

They are threatening to attack the White House. If I hadn't witnessed 9/11, I might not believe it possible. But I saw the Twin Towers fall on live TV, and a jetliner smash into the Pentagon.

The president spends most of his time at a resort in Florida. Not necessarily the hardest of targets, Mar-A-Lago. The last time I was in front of the White House a few years ago, they evacuated Lafayette Square. Security there is tight. No golf course on Earth compares...

And, so, if they go after Trump, they will be bringing about their own special version of their apocalyptic end times, except for no Mahdi...

Hence, don't let them get nukes.

[W. Rabbit]

Well, if they do that, it is going to be lights out for Iran.

At this point, we should probably just go ahead and take out their nuke facilities.

We may take casualties, but they really can't win.

Iran has the 14th most powerful military in the world.

https://www.globalfirepower.com/countries-listing.asp

I don't think anybody can win that war.

[BKR]

But Iranian air defenses prevent us from bombing inside the country. We couldn't just bomb Saddam, either.

But inside Iraq, we have had air superiority there for a long time.

Killing the general was an overt act of war for sure, but it was only possible because he (rather foolishly) entered Baghdad with impunity.

That last part makes me wonder if it's at all possible he knew he might die, and went anyway knowing that a military strike on him might only embolden Iran's hardline hawks and paint the US as the aggressor, something the clerical leadership has used effectively against us since I was a boy.

AND Iran attacked out embassy. Act of war they did first. Otherwise, the dude would still be alive, even though he should have been killed, along with every Iranian backed unit outside of Iran, a long time ago.

We are at this point partly because they were tolerated outside of Iran wayyy too much.

[BKR]

Iran has the 14th most powerful military in the world.

I don't think anybody can win that war.

Not talking about invading Iran, and LOL, you are funny.

[BKR]

But Iranian air defenses prevent us from bombing inside the country. We couldn't just bomb Saddam, either.

But inside Iraq, we have had air superiority there for a long time.

Killing the general was an overt act of war for sure, but it was only possible because he (rather foolishly) entered Baghdad with impunity.

That last part makes me wonder if it's at all possible he knew he might die, and went anyway knowing that a military strike on him might only embolden Iran's hardline hawks and paint the US as the aggressor, something the clerical leadership has used effectively against us since I was a boy.

Ah, no, they do not keep out from Iranian airspace.

Yeah no, he was an arrogant bastard. Iran miscalculated, but of course had contingency for when the asshole got offed. Just because they are 16th century religious zealots does not mean they don't have layered plans.