Iran War now? Yea or nay?

[It is Fake]

Life in 2016 is getting interesting, my kids and wife are now so spooked, they are ahead of me on the open source news cycle.

Both kids are telling me "World War III is trending...is there gonna be a draft....what does Wag the Dog mean?". My Wife is even worried about me posting about Russia online (probably because I've been talking her ear off about the US-Russian cyberwar for a decade and made her watch Zero Day.

So there's an unmentioned price to all this. All the oorahing aside, people are more fucking nervous than ever, the leadership is being flaky as usual, and nobody really knows what's going to happen next. Especially the kids. We're supposed to be withdrawing from all the wars...no more global policing?

One has to wonder why we couldn't have taken the Osama Bin Laden alive, given his value as an intelligence source. More than one way to skin a cat. What a missed opportunity, really.

As far as wanting war, we need to be careful with that thought as with North Korea..were it not for Stuxnet, Iran would be nuclear today. And they just took the last drops of piss out of the Nuclear Agreement, so get ready for a nuclear armed N. Korea tomorrow and watch the war hawks fly.

[W. Rabbit]

Not to mention this harsh pill.

Midway through 2000's, Iran was to reach nuclear capacity by 2015. That was thwarted for the most part by a joint NSA/CIA/Israeli cyberweapon and a shitload of IAEA monitoring.

The Nuclear Agreement was to last for 15 years, and Trump was very vocal about this as his reason for backing out of the deal. "Flawed Accord" or something.

Now, Iran is shredding the deal in less than 5 years, and quick math says they could have a weapons grade uranium sphere before the next New Year.

The obvious deterrent to this would be sanctions but...with everyone now on war footing, that would probably just make things escalate faster. The biggest strategic concern other than nukes are Iran's reliance on asymmetric warfare, namely cyber attacks on US Industrial controls and critical infrastructure, and of course, terrorism.

Cut off one head...

There is some positive...at least their navy sucks, and a significant portion of the Iranian population doesn't hate or want war with America.

[goodlun]

You do realize when you invoke "the deep state" you show yourself to be nothing more than a sucker of orange dicks. Like seriously it's the hillbilly calling card of late. Next you'll bring up Hillary's emails or similar mega bullshit.

Your fucking retarded

[Dr. Gonzo]

Not to mention this harsh pill.

Midway through 2000's, Iran was to reach nuclear capacity by 2015. That was thwarted for the most part by a joint NSA/CIA/Israeli cyberweapon and a shitload of IAEA monitoring.

The Nuclear Agreement was to last for 15 years, and Trump was very vocal about this as his reason for backing out of the deal. "Flawed Accord" or something.

Now, Iran is shredding the deal in less than 5 years, and quick math says they could have a weapons grade uranium sphere before the next New Year.

The obvious deterrent to this would be sanctions but...with everyone now on war footing, that would probably just make things escalate faster. The biggest strategic concern other than nukes are Iran's reliance on asymmetric warfare, namely cyber attacks on US Industrial controls and critical infrastructure, and of course, terrorism.

Cut off one head...

There is some positive...at least their navy sucks, and a significant portion of the Iranian population doesn't hate or want war with America.

Why would you assume that Iran does not have nuclear capability now?

They have all the right trading partners, and the right terrain to have such capabilities and keep it to themselves for rainy days.

[Bneterasedmynam]

At now point have I said he didn't deserve it. Quite the opposite in fact. My problem is the time and the place that we did it.

I disagree it was the perfect time to eliminate that shit stain.

[W. Rabbit]

Why would you assume that Iran does not have nuclear capability now?

They have all the right trading partners, and the right terrain to have such capabilities and keep it to themselves for rainy days.

The collective assessment of US and European intelligence as well as IAEA is that they do not.

They are, however, practically there. They have the technology, the raw materials, and now more than ever, the motive. So then as you well know, it's just a matter of time x # of centrifuges.

Remember there is still a fatwa against the use of nuclear weapons. But I take all fatwas with a grain of salt. I have to remind myself the Catholic Church officially prohibits buggering altar boys, too.

They will hand over weaponized uranium to 3rd parties as soon as they have it. And then comes the potential era of proxy nuclear war. And yes, that should scare everyone.

[W. Rabbit]

Your fucking retarded

You are. You're. It's so simple.

[Bneterasedmynam]

Your fucking retarded

Says the dipshit who parrots directly from the conservatives playbook, at least I can think for myself and come up with my own talking points. You can only rinse and repeat, my fucking washing machine ties you for function.

[Bneterasedmynam]

You are. You're. It's so simple.

Goddamnit I was just about to add that LOL.

[Bneterasedmynam]

I'm 100% sure that all have bonespurs or some shit.

[W. Rabbit]

I disagree it was the perfect time to eliminate that shit stain.

The big difference between icing Bin Laden vs. Iran's general was that by the time the SEALs got to OBL, he was no longer in the position of actively planning and directing attacks.

The value of black bagging vs drone strike is pretty obvious. So perfect time is a relative thing...the perfect time might have been "never", making the hit a distant 2nd. Of course there is no guarantee killing him will stop anything already planned or in process.

[goodlun]

Says the dipshit who parrots directly from the conservatives playbook, at least I can think for myself and come up with my own talking points. You can only rinse and repeat, my fucking washing machine ties you for function.

You are retarded - I am not a conservative, I don't advocate for small government, I don't advocate for conservative social policy, I don't advocate for conservative economics.
It is retarded to call a center left person a conservative. The left isn't opposed to military action as a principle of retaliation.
Calling people out for what is basically saying well I think it was a good idea to kill that guy except no because Trump, isn't conservative.
So yeah I am not all about that but Trump bullshit.

[Dr. Gonzo]

The big difference between icing Bin Laden vs. Iran's general was that by the time the SEALs got to OBL, he was no longer in the position of actively planning and directing attacks.

The value of black bagging vs drone strike is pretty obvious. So perfect time is a relative thing...the perfect time might have been "never", making the hit a distant 2nd. Of course there is no guarantee killing him will stop anything already planned or in process.

You never make a lady ask twice.

If that stupid fucker puts his head in the crosshairs, unless he is surrounded by children, or walking through a hospital, you send him to Paradise, with a first class ticket.

[Kovacs]

The value of black bagging vs drone strike is pretty obvious. So perfect time is a relative thing...the perfect time might have been "never", making the hit a distant 2nd. Of course there is no guarantee killing him will stop anything already planned or in process.

[goodlun]

Life in 2020 is getting interesting, my kids and wife are now so spooked, they are ahead of me on the open source news cycle.

Both kids are telling me "World War III is trending...is there gonna be a draft....what does Wag the Dog mean?". My Wife is even worried about me posting about Iran online (probably because I've been talking her ear off about the US-Iranian cyberwar for a decade and made her watch Zero Day.

So there's an unmentioned price to all this. All the oorahing aside, people are more fucking nervous than ever, the leadership is being flaky as usual, and nobody really knows what's going to happen next. Especially the kids. We're supposed to be withdrawing from all the wars...no more global policing?

One has to wonder why we couldn't have taken the Shadow Commander alive, given his value as an intelligence source. More than one way to skin a cat. What a missed opportunity, really.

As far as wanting war, we need to be careful with that thought as with North Korea..were it not for Stuxnet, Iran would be nuclear today. And they just took the last drops of piss out of the Nuclear Agreement, so get ready for a nuclear armed Iran tomorrow and watch the war hawks fly.

WW3 thing trending is good, it shows Iran that we are prepared as a society. Even when the tweets and memes are anti-war it shows we just sort of accepted it.
This is means Iran needs to step carefully.