Iran War now? Yea or nay?

[Dung Beatles]

Indeed:
Yea
Oil is fungible, oil transportation infrastructure is less so. So the impact would be disproportionately felt by Russia and China.

I'm not sure what you mean.

Russia is an oil producing country. Russia would profit if Iran were not able to sell their oil. It wouldn't just be China paying more, it would be the entire world.

[Dung Beatles]

Nor does Russia.

The Iranian government has allied with Russia in the past but when it comes to the Kremlin, the history lesson I learned is that they don't really have allies in the same sense that other countries do. They just have partners they haven't stabbed in the back yet. The Kremlin wants vassal states, not partners.

[goodlun]

Indeed, I seriously hope we don't as well, and I don't think it's likely.
No it's not going to be a 100 hour war. However the conventional portion of the war will be quicker than what a lot of people think.

[Mr. Machette]

I saw that Iran's response to us blatantly murking one of their top brass was to run a extra special rag up a flag pole in Tehran.

"that's disconcerting" - Tom Hanks

[Dr. Gonzo]

Indeed, I seriously hope we don't as well, and I don't think it's likely.
No it's not going to be a 100 hour war. However the conventional portion of the war will be quicker than what a lot of people think.

It all depends.

Are we talking about a full frontal overt war between the US and Iran?

Or, are we talking about a war of the kind that overthrew the last Iranian government, because the same type of internal action may yet (at some point) overthrow another?

[Raycetpfl]

Enjoy your smug genx neocon circlejerk you fucking retard. You get lots of affirmation for your retard views here because this forum has basically chased off everyone that doesn't agree with you, sub, and bkr. Enjoy your echo chamber you pseudo-intellectual hack.

That's not true. I argue with them all the time.

[Raycetpfl]

This is a good article:
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/03/w...-iran-war.html
One thing they sort of missed out on though is how Iran being at war does impact Russia and China much more than other countries in the region.

I am also not sure I agree with this assessment:
Iran is a regional power with far more sophisticated military capabilities than any country that the United States has gone to war with since World War II.
Well, it is "true" but its still leaves an impression that they are sophisticated or that sophistication offers up a challenge that the US military isn't prepared for.
Israel F35 adir has proven effective against the S-300. The equipment added to the Adir isn't insignificant. However the B2 is more than capable of taking out S300 sites.
The Iranians have no air assets that challenge F22s or F35s.

Iraq was the fourth largest military in the world. Ducks on the water present a greater challenge to our military than Iran.

But holding Iran is a different animal.

[goodlun]

It all depends.

Are we talking about a full frontal overt war between the US and Iran?

Or, are we talking about a war of the kind that overthrew the last Iranian government, because the same type of internal action may yet (at some point) overthrow another?

I can tighter define, our ability to reduce their freestanding army, capital military assets, and bases to rubble, and remove their current leadership, wouldn't take very long. Everything after that is a shit show for sure.

[Raycetpfl]

I can tighter define, our ability to reduce their freestanding army, capital military assets, and bases to rubble, and remove their current leadership, wouldn't take very long. Everything after that is a shit show for sure.

I feel the exact same way. Should we just give it Israel?

[BKR]

https://www.avimelamed.com/2020/01/0...MR5QY2-weO4MKE

Zionist stance and he knows his shit ?

Is that so surprising ? Maybe his survival depends on it...

[BKR]

Enjoy your smug genx neocon circlejerk you fucking retard. You get lots of affirmation for your retard views here because this forum has basically chased off everyone that doesn't agree with you, sub, and bkr. Enjoy your echo chamber you pseudo-intellectual hack.

And all the pussies, like you, retreat to pussy-land, meaning, Discord, for your naive, immature, SJW, circle-jerk.

Now, you still come here, so you are a bit less of a pussy, and I appreciate that about you.

You want to present a cogent, non-trolling, point of view, backed up with facts, go ahead, I'd welcome that.

Try that instead of name-calling the people you disagree with, or just do both, the name calling nobody minds, and sometimes you are even clever and funny about it.

We have a guy here who fucking lives in Israel, and gets rockets dropped on him, maybe you could learn something.

[BKR]

Lots of people don't agree with Sub, BKR, or I here.

The difference is we welcome different points of view,

and don't cry or throw tantrums when people disagree with us, or rib us.

A useful skill for you to learn as you continue to grow into a real adult.

But lots of people go a remarkably long time without learning it.

Which makes them easy pickings, and ridiculous.

Exactly...is this where I call you a mixed-race mongeral with a phenotypically small penis and get banned ?

Waiting..

[BKR]

The things you disagree on are fine details. All of the people that regularly post here aside from me are between the ages of 35-60 and have generally neoconservative politics. The debate that exists exists purely within your own ideology.

We can't help it if you younger folks can't hang with us. You are welcome. Nobody is banning you for being ridiculous, at times.

I don't even know what neocon means. It's like Kantian to me, I'll have to look it up.

[Dr. Gonzo]

Exactly...is this where I call you a mixed-race mongeral with a phenotypically small penis and get banned ?

Waiting..

Someone would have to be exceptionally insecure about their penis size to ban someone for a small dick joke.

And that would make the ban a hilarious confirmation of that insecurity.

It is one of those things you cannot help but laugh hard about,

but you know deep down that it is not nice to laugh about it,

because apparently it is a real issue for that person.

[BKR]

It is snowflake millennial bullshit. It is hilarious because these same woke snowflakes believe it is different from woke snowflake boomer shit.

I was born in 1962. Am I a boomer, or a what ?

Am I even awake ? snrrrrkkkk, snort, wtf is going on?

It's like those multiple-level dreams, where you think you are awake but then wake up, and find out you are still dreaming. Usually a nightmare...