Iran War now? Yea or nay?

[BKR]

Our loony President and the Pentagon that approved the Vietnam War, and invasions or regime changes or bomb the fuck out of Laos, Cambodia, the Dominican Republic, Iraq, Grenada, Guatemala, Indonesia, Iran, Guatemala, Nicaragua, Lebanon, Panama, Libya, El Salvador, Honduras, Afghanistan, Pakistan, etc, etc, etc.

Give me a fucking break

So, to better understand your point of view, for what reasons would YOU find moral/right thing to do to intervene militarily in another country ?

I'll start. I thought the crap that went on in Rwanda was worth of serious world military intervention.

This way we can bracket the outside edges of a bit. Maybe

[It is Fake]

Our loony President and the Pentagon that approved the Vietnam War, and invasions or regime changes or bomb the fuck out of Laos, Cambodia, the Dominican Republic, Iraq, Grenada, Guatemala, Indonesia, Iran, Guatemala, Nicaragua, Lebanon, Panama, Libya, El Salvador, Honduras, Afghanistan, Pakistan, etc, etc, etc.

Give me a fucking break

“President” needs to be plural. They’ve all done shady things. Iran though, they’ve been doing dumb shit for awhile and have been left alone. Trump didn’t like it, pulled the funding and here we are because they decide to act a fool.

[hungryjoe]

Our loony President and the Pentagon that approved the Vietnam War, and invasions or regime changes or bomb the fuck out of Laos, Cambodia, the Dominican Republic, Iraq, Grenada, Guatemala, Indonesia, Iran, Guatemala, Nicaragua, Lebanon, Panama, Libya, El Salvador, Honduras, Afghanistan, Pakistan, etc, etc, etc.

Give me a fucking break

You will get no argument from me on many of these. Others, notably some of the regime changes, we will have to agree to disagree.

Iran? An attack was eminent. Maybe we get details. Maybe not for a myriad of valid reasons. Iran today is not the Iran of our youth.

This was not a wag the dog moment or attempt to start a war. That is my belief. I'm a counter puncher. This was that.

[patfromlogan]

OK Perhaps l am a tad self righteous know it all angry overbearing... Have you assholes been talking to my wife?

[Dung Beatles]

^this^

Iran has been flexing. No war has been started. If Iran wants to attack America they need to expect a hard response each and every time. Be it embassy, base or whatever.

This war monger talk is bullshit.

I agree 100% that Suliemani had it coming and Iran are blindly aggressive hiding behind brinksmanship for the US wanting to avoid war.

But, where the fuck was this tough on terror shit in the case of Al Bashir who was definitely in the running for guy with the most American blood on his hands when he was feeding IED's and money to Iraqi insurgents and ISIS (and their predecessors)?

Trump doesn't get a pass for sacrificing the Kurds and making the region less safe in every other arena.

I question his motivations in every step because I don't see him doing anything in American interests.

[hungryjoe]

OK Perhaps l am a tad self righteous know it all angry overbearing... Have you assholes been talking to my wife?

She won't take my calls.

[goodlun]

OK Perhaps l am a tad self righteous know it all angry overbearing... Have you assholes been talking to my wife?

It wouldn't be any fun any other way

[W. Rabbit]

Your worse than a college freshman, oh if you just read this you will become so woke.

At least Pat knows the difference between your and you're.

Remember, arguments are born, grown, diminished, and murdered based on proper structure, including spelling and grammar.

But please, carry on.

[Dung Beatles]

Iran? An attack was eminent.

According to the Trump administration. Their first talking point the day after being sworn into office was based around "Alternate Facts" and a foolish obsession with faking a bigger crowd than Obama at the inauguration.

I can't trust anything said by someone that dishonest, which means I can't trust the Executive branch while he's in office. Those are words that I never thought I would ever say in my life.

[hungryjoe]

According to the Trump administration. Their first talking point the day after being sworn into office was based around "Alternate Facts" and a foolish obsession with faking a bigger crowd than Obama at the inauguration.

Armchair quarterbacking is easy.

[BKR]

Well put

[BKR]

OK Perhaps l am a tad self righteous know it all angry overbearing... Have you assholes been talking to my wife?

No, but I am sure she is a very kind and patient woman.

[goodlun]

I question his motivations in every step because I don't see him doing anything in American interests.

How much of that is your own political bias? How much anti-trump social media do you consume?
I am far from a Trump Supporter myself, I certainly didn't vote for him the 1st time around and won't be doing so this go around either.
However I have seen the left demonize anything and everything he does.
I live in a historically LGBTQ community, I have LGBTQ friends and family, and so I keep an eye on LGBTQ news and other things.
I watched them get in an uproar of him sending a positive tweat about LGBTQ Pride month. Its like holy fuck.........come on now.

[Dung Beatles]

Armchair quarterbacking is easy.

True.

I take responsibility for being a negative Nancy.

[Dung Beatles]

How much of that is your own political bias?

It's not that. I have been feeding myself a steady diet of WWI, WW2, Cold War and Soviet history since I was in high school.

I'm not an expert by any means but there are common themes that I believe should not be ignored.