Malibu, El Camino, Ford Fairlane. Don't know how to make this a poll thread.

[W. Rabbit]

The real answer here is just to buy a new(er) challenger.

New cars are better in every way; from old muscle cars. except for aesthetic which is a personal choice. But even then you should just pick an old car whose body styling you like and just put a new drive train in it.
Old cars are a headache. My old turbo 4 focus would blow the doors off all three old cars listed here. But those old v8s definitely sound nice I guess.

I agree with this. 2005 mustang GT, or newer Challenger.

In fact I was driven to GWAR in a Challenger last night. Beastly.

[lant3rn]

I agree with this. 2005 mustang GT, or newer Challenger.

In fact I was driven to GWAR in a Challenger last night. Beastly.

They are a lot of fun, dung should take one out for comparison.

[Dung Beatles]

The real answer here is just to buy a new(er) challenger.

New cars are better in every way; from old muscle cars. except for aesthetic which is a personal choice. But even then you should just pick an old car whose body styling you like and just put a new drive train in it.
Old cars are a headache. My old turbo 4 focus would blow the doors off all three old cars listed here. But those old v8s definitely sound nice I guess.

You don't get it.

That's not the point. If I wanted to just "go fast" I'd buy another GTR or a corvette.But if I was going to buy another corvette, I'd put on a lift kit and offroad tires. Because I can and it's more fun that way.

[lant3rn]

You don't get it.

That's not the point. If I wanted to just "go fast" I'd buy another GTR or a corvette.But if I was going to buy another corvette, I'd put on a lift kit and offroad tires. Because I can and it's more fun that way.

There's nothing wrong with buying an old muscle car if you want to learn how to fix old cars. I wasn't sure if you were into that or not.

[submessenger]

The 82 Firebird is the Trans Am.

There is no emoticon for what I am feeling right now.

Not quite. The 82 TA was a Firebird, but not all 82 Firebirds were TAs.

TA was roughly equal to Camaro Z28, at the time.

[Dung Beatles]

There's nothing wrong with buying an old muscle car if you want to learn how to fix old cars. I wasn't sure if you were into that or not.

I don't really have any interest in new cars. Old cars will treat you right if you treat them right. Most new cars bore me to death. There's just nothing that interests me about the cheap plastic parts that fill most new vehicles.

It's not just the aesthetic, it's the quality.

No plastic junk. No cheap materials that were built to wear out. No planned obsolescence.

At least, not until about 1971. That's when everything went to total dogshit. Well, except the Trans-Am (not the shitty 80 or 81) and the occassional blip on the radar like the Grand National.

[submessenger]

I don't really have any interest in new cars. Old cars will treat you right if you treat them right. Most new cars bore me to death. There's just nothing that interests me about the cheap plastic parts that fill most new vehicles.

It's not just the aesthetic, it's the quality.

No plastic junk. No cheap materials that were built to wear out. No planned obsolescence.

At least, not until about 1971. That's when everything went to total dogshit. Well, except the Trans-Am (not the shitty 80 or 81) and the occassional blip on the radar like the Grand National.

Grand National was a beast of a car. I always wanted one. Settled on an '84 Cutlass with a 231, which I drove into '94 or '95. Replaced it with an Isuzu P'up, which suited me fine. My Cutlass was stolen from the dealer or something, and I got a note from State of FL saying that I could reclaim it for a small fee. Almost pulled the trigger on that, but as a young military dick, I had no place to store a second vehicle.

[lant3rn]

I don't really have any interest in new cars. Old cars will treat you right if you treat them right. Most new cars bore me to death. There's just nothing that interests me about the cheap plastic parts that fill most new vehicles.

It's not just the aesthetic, it's the quality.

No plastic junk. No cheap materials that were built to wear out. No planned obsolescence.

At least, not until about 1971. That's when everything went to total dogshit. Well, except the Trans-Am (not the shitty 80 or 81) and the occassional blip on the radar like the Grand National.

?? I like to reminisce as well but nothing you're saying is objectively true.

a 1969 Camaro is in no way better than a 2019 one, in any objective measurement I can find...

What your saying is based precisely on aesthetics.. which is fine. Buy the car that puts the biggest smile on your face.

But if your not going to do the work yourself, you'll be putting your mechanics grandkids through med school.

[Dung Beatles]

But if your not going to do the work yourself you'll putting your mechanics grandkids through med school.

I can do most easy repairs for old cars no problem and mostly that's all it usually is, is easy repairs. If it's too complicated, buy a new part, unbolt the old one, put on a new one.

The only thing that is going to cost me money is if it's easier to pay someone than to buy the equipment to do it myself.

This isn't my first rodeo. I had a car dealership before I decided to jump into the marijuana industry. That's how I made enough money to get into this ridiculously expensive business.

[lant3rn]

I can do most easy repairs for old cars no problem and mostly that's all it usually is, is easy repairs. If it's too complicated, buy a new part, unbolt the old one, put on a new one.

The only thing that is going to cost me money is if it's easier to pay someone than to buy the equipment to do it myself.

This isn't my first rodeo. I had a car dealership before I decided to jump into the marijuana industry. That's how I made enough money to get into this ridiculously expensive business.

Was it a chevy dealership?

[Dung Beatles]

?? I like to reminisce as well but nothing you're saying is objectively true.

I'm not a specialist on the 2019 Camaro or a 2019 anything but there is a huge difference in quality when it comes to well maintained old vehicles. The simplicity of design, the sturdy materials, the raw function. There were some good design improvements here and there but for the most part I don't really care for new technology.

[Dung Beatles]

Was it a chevy dealership?

No, it was not. If I had a licensed chevy dealership I'd never have sold it off. Those things are gold mines. The families that own them keep them forever.

[lant3rn]

I'm not a specialist on the 2019 Camaro or a 2019 anything but there is a huge difference in quality when it comes to well maintained old vehicles. The simplicity of design, the sturdy materials, the raw function. There were some good design improvements here and there but for the most part I don't really care for new technology.

Like the refrigerator or the lightbulb?

[W. Rabbit]

Not quite. The 82 TA was a Firebird, but not all 82 Firebirds were TAs.

TA was roughly equal to Camaro Z28, at the time.

Damn you and your predicate logic. But you knew which one I meant.

You want some Z28?

1985 IROC-Z. The go to vehicle for Jersey shore beefcakes who want to hear purrs..

[W. Rabbit]

I can do most easy repairs for old cars no problem and mostly that's all it usually is, is easy repairs. If it's too complicated, buy a new part, unbolt the old one, put on a new one.

The only thing that is going to cost me money is if it's easier to pay someone than to buy the equipment to do it myself.

This isn't my first rodeo. I had a car dealership before I decided to jump into the marijuana industry. That's how I made enough money to get into this ridiculously expensive business.

If you can find the parts...unless you're cool dump diving. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

I don't consider eBay a trustworthy source either and neither should you.

Do you want a real muscle car, or a pony?