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    #16
    I'm going to make up my own conspiracy theory, now.

    This whole thing was a ploy by Disney to back out of the DisneyFox deal, while still saving face.
    Being correct on the Internet is orders of magnitude easier than being correct in the Universe. Perhaps we should all concentrate more on the latter...

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      #17
      So BFM mentioned that there is a rise of hate crimes in America, however, there is also a rise of fake and hoax hate crimes like this and fuelled by the media. And this rise has been documented, on http://www.fakehatecrimes.org/ which coincidentally crashed when more info came about from the Smollett case.

      Makes it real difficult to believe there really is a rise in hate crimes.

      You can argue that the site isn't legit, but I'll then argue that the mainstream media is no longer legit, and I have several proven hoaxes that back me up.

      Look, if people on your ideological side are making up hate crimes and then saying, "oh, this might have been fake but it is happening every day", they are the problem and your tacit approval compounds that.
      GET A RED BELT OR DIE TRYIN'.
      Originally posted by Devil
      I think Battlefields and I had a spirited discussion once about who was the biggest narcissist. We both wanted the title but at the end of the day I had to concede defeat. Can't win 'em all.
      Originally posted by BackFistMonkey
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        #18
        Originally posted by battlefields View Post
        So BFM mentioned that there is a rise of hate crimes in America, however, there is also a rise of fake and hoax hate crimes like this and fuelled by the media. And this rise has been documented, on http://www.fakehatecrimes.org/ which coincidentally crashed when more info came about from the Smollett case.

        Makes it real difficult to believe there really is a rise in hate crimes.

        You can argue that the site isn't legit, but I'll then argue that the mainstream media is no longer legit, and I have several proven hoaxes that back me up.

        Look, if people on your ideological side are making up hate crimes and then saying, "oh, this might have been fake but it is happening every day", they are the problem and your tacit approval compounds that.
        The number of vile hate crimes committed against people wearing MAGA hats of MAGA shirts is certainly steeply on the rise.

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          #19
          Originally posted by battlefields View Post
          So BFM mentioned that there is a rise of hate crimes in America, however, there is also a rise of fake and hoax hate crimes like this and fuelled by the media. And this rise has been documented, on http://www.fakehatecrimes.org/ which coincidentally crashed when more info came about from the Smollett case.

          Makes it real difficult to believe there really is a rise in hate crimes.

          You can argue that the site isn't legit, but I'll then argue that the mainstream media is no longer legit, and I have several proven hoaxes that back me up.

          Look, if people on your ideological side are making up hate crimes and then saying, "oh, this might have been fake but it is happening every day", they are the problem and your tacit approval compounds that.
          Yet another form of 'splainin, works both directions.
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            #20
            Originally posted by battlefields View Post
            So BFM mentioned that there is a rise of hate crimes in America, however, there is also a rise of fake and hoax hate crimes like this and fuelled by the media. And this rise has been documented, on http://www.fakehatecrimes.org/ which coincidentally crashed when more info came about from the Smollett case.

            Makes it real difficult to believe there really is a rise in hate crimes.

            You can argue that the site isn't legit, but I'll then argue that the mainstream media is no longer legit, and I have several proven hoaxes that back me up.

            Look, if people on your ideological side are making up hate crimes and then saying, "oh, this might have been fake but it is happening every day", they are the problem and your tacit approval compounds that.
            I don't even like the term "hate crime" btw and I also pointed out there is a huge increase in the numbers of fake crimes as well. Which is why it was a hard one to call off the cuff.
            “I don't mean to sound bitter, cold, or cruel, but I am, so that's how it comes out.”
            BILL HICKS,
            1961-1994

            "Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past."
            ---Jean-Paul Sartre

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              #21
              There's a few possible/probable scenarios:

              1. These guy helped and Smollet arranged the whole thing.

              2. These guys whooped his ass and Smollet didn't have a clue who did it.

              3. These guys didn't whoop his ass and this is a case of mistaken identity.

              I'm going to wait until the investigation is completed to see what's what.
              "Pave the way for the little guy, Caligula!" Harry Solomon, September 28, 1999

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                #22
                Originally posted by Dung Beatles View Post
                Did he say anything about them wearing balaclavas or covering their face? Did it happen in the dark? It can be hard to make out race in the dark while getting beat on.

                It could have also been a money or a sex thing. Maybe they felt he owed them something or there was some lascivious revenge element involved that Smollet didn't want to go public so he blamed the ass whupping on a patsy. If this was planned in advance as a hoax then I'm betting they left enough clues for the police to prove it in court. Of course, it comes down to his word versus theirs this is guaranteed to get ugly.
                One of the brothers is on record, earlier today, as confirming the entire hoax. Also, FBI INVESTIGATION!!!11!1!
                Being correct on the Internet is orders of magnitude easier than being correct in the Universe. Perhaps we should all concentrate more on the latter...

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                  #23
                  Originally posted by submessenger View Post
                  One of the brothers is on record, earlier today, as confirming the entire hoax. Also, FBI INVESTIGATION!!!11!1!
                  I had a great link earlier today and lost it.
                  Here is a great video on the topic tho.
                  “I don't mean to sound bitter, cold, or cruel, but I am, so that's how it comes out.”
                  BILL HICKS,
                  1961-1994

                  "Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past."
                  ---Jean-Paul Sartre

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                    #24
                    Bwahaha...

                    The FBI, despite the fact that the upper FBI echelon are engaged in a silent and sometimes not-so-silent coup against the President,

                    FBI lower and mid management are still investigating this piece of shit anyway, because he committed a hate crime of felonious proportions.

                    https://pluralist.com/fbi-investigating-jussie-smollett/

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                      #25
                      Originally posted by battlefields View Post
                      Stop trying to give the Smollett bullshit any credibility. It has none and there is none.
                      I'm just not jumping to any conclusions. I'm not a huge fan of bandwagons.
                      "Pave the way for the little guy, Caligula!" Harry Solomon, September 28, 1999

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                        #26
                        No jump necessary, slide on over, dude is full of bullshit.
                        GET A RED BELT OR DIE TRYIN'.
                        Originally posted by Devil
                        I think Battlefields and I had a spirited discussion once about who was the biggest narcissist. We both wanted the title but at the end of the day I had to concede defeat. Can't win 'em all.
                        Originally posted by BackFistMonkey
                        I <3 Battlefields...

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                          #27
                          Originally posted by Dung Beatles View Post
                          Did he say anything about them wearing balaclavas or covering their face? Did it happen in the dark? It can be hard to make out race in the dark while getting beat on.

                          It could have also been a money or a sex thing. Maybe they felt he owed them something or there was some lascivious revenge element involved that Smollet didn't want to go public so he blamed the ass whupping on a patsy. If this was planned in advance as a hoax then I'm betting they left enough clues for the police to prove it in court. Of course, it comes down to his word versus theirs this is guaranteed to get ugly.
                          I typically like to reserve judgment on stuff like this. Mainly because I don't like people coming back and laughing at me when I'm wrong. So, I just sit back and wait for stuff to pan out. However, in this case a few things were just hilariously ridiculous when they came out. Like how he was just choked with a noose but when he was able to fight off his attackers, he left the noose on his neck for 45 minutes until the cops came. Yeah... He didn't call the cops first. He called a gossip site to report the attack and then called the cops. He refused to give his phone to the police when they asked. The attackers were walking around Chicago at night wearing red hats and yelling "this is MAGA country". Yeah right. Who in their right mind is doing that on the streets of Chicago at 2am?

                          Just those alone raised red flags with me. And most anyone who heard them, I think.
                          Combatives training log.

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                            #28
                            Originally posted by Diesel_tke View Post
                            I typically like to reserve judgment on stuff like this. Mainly because I don't like people coming back and laughing at me when I'm wrong. So, I just sit back and wait for stuff to pan out. However, in this case a few things were just hilariously ridiculous when they came out. Like how he was just choked with a noose but when he was able to fight off his attackers, he left the noose on his neck for 45 minutes until the cops came. Yeah... He didn't call the cops first. He called a gossip site to report the attack and then called the cops. He refused to give his phone to the police when they asked. The attackers were walking around Chicago at night wearing red hats and yelling "this is MAGA country". Yeah right. Who in their right mind is doing that on the streets of Chicago at 2am?

                            Just those alone raised red flags with me. And most anyone who heard them, I think.
                            I knew absolutely none of that.

                            OK. Smollet has 100% fucked himself for life. I thought it was a thing where he stepped outside to make a phone call at a party and got bushwacked.

                            What the fuck was he thinking? It's a 1 in a 1,000 chance for an actor to actually get a speaking part in Hollywood and this is the idiot shit he went with.

                            Holy fuck.
                            "Pave the way for the little guy, Caligula!" Harry Solomon, September 28, 1999

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                              #29
                              Originally posted by Dung Beatles View Post
                              I knew absolutely none of that.

                              OK. Smollet has 100% fucked himself for life. I thought it was a thing where he stepped outside to make a phone call at a party and got bushwacked.

                              What the fuck was he thinking? It's a 1 in a 1,000 chance for an actor to actually get a speaking part in Hollywood and this is the idiot shit he went with.

                              Holy fuck.
                              I saw on the news this morning that he had received a letter in the mail a few weeks earlier that said a bunch of anti-gay MAGA stuff. The letter was like you would see in movies 20 years ago. You know, with the letters cut out of magazines and stuff. Well, the two dudes that he paid to do this say that he was upset that he didn't get any attention in the news for that, and then orchestrated the whole thing.

                              Word is that his part was dwindling and he heard his time was limited, so he did this to try to get his popularity up.

                              If it's all true, I hope he goes to jail. At least for a few months to think it over.
                              Combatives training log.

                              Gezere: paraphrase from Bas Rutten, Never escalate the level of violence in fight you are losing. :D

                              Drum thread

                              Pavel Tsatsouline: kettlebell workouts give you “cardio without the dishonour of aerobics”.

                              "Disliking someone is not evidence of wrongdoing or malfeasance or even bias." --Dung Beatles

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                                #30
                                Originally posted by Diesel_tke View Post
                                I saw on the news this morning that he had received a letter in the mail a few weeks earlier that said a bunch of anti-gay MAGA stuff. The letter was like you would see in movies 20 years ago. You know, with the letters cut out of magazines and stuff. Well, the two dudes that he paid to do this say that he was upset that he didn't get any attention in the news for that, and then orchestrated the whole thing.

                                Word is that his part was dwindling and he heard his time was limited, so he did this to try to get his popularity up.

                                If it's all true, I hope he goes to jail. At least for a few months to think it over.
                                Well, he's fucked now. The cops aren't going to let this go. I don't know how someone does something like this without going to jail. Either way, he will never live this down for the rest of his life and I'm guessing that won't be very long. Where does someone go after they do something like this? He couldn't get an acting gig in porno at this point.
                                "Pave the way for the little guy, Caligula!" Harry Solomon, September 28, 1999

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