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    Originally posted by Shawarma View Post
    Cool. Now how does that relate to anything I just typed out regarding the inflexibility of your two-party system, which by the way is not a constitutional construct?
    Do you have a more specific question? Because, I just answered that, just then, in the previous post.
    Consider for a moment that there is no meme about brown-haired, brown-eyed step children.

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      Originally posted by Shawarma View Post
      As it is, you need a fucking UN peacekeeping mission to unfuck your political system.
      Jesus Christ we finally managed to quell the idea that the UN is going to invade Texas, Kentucky and Alabama and make everyone gay marry minorities to breed out the Real Patriots. Don't give Fox News, Breitbart and Facebook any fuel... plskthnx.
      Your political system is an abomination and it hurts the globe as a whole. Fix it.
      You are literally preaching to the choir on that one.

      Oh yeah ... Trump ummm ... *checks Newsweek* Aha!
      TRUMP CAMPAIGN COORDINATOR AND 'FAMILY VALUES' REPUBLICAN PLEADS GUILTY TO CHILD SEX TRAFFICKING, FACES LIFE IN PRISON
      http://www.newsweek.com/republican-s...dinator-716348
      Ralph Shortey, former Oklahoma state senator and a county campaign coordinator for President Donald Trump’s campaign last year, will plead guilty to a child sex trafficking offense for soliciting sex from a 17-year-old boy in March.

      In exchange for his guilty plea, government prosecutors have agreed to drop three counts of child pornography against him.

      Shortey is scheduled to plead guilty on November 30, two weeks before his trial was set to commence on December 5. Sex trafficking of a minor carries a minimum sentence of 10 years in prison, but Shortey faces the possibility of being sent to life in prison for the offense at a sentencing hearing in early 2018.
      I cannot believe the Democratic Campaign Operatives made that Best People™ solicit sex from a 17 year old, posses child pornography, then force him to plead guilty. Fucking Clinton and her goddamn emails are ruining this country.

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        Originally posted by Shawarma View Post
        Not really an answer. Who did you vote for? Because if you did indeed vote for one of the two main parties despite disliking their candidate because"if the other guy was even worse!", then you are part of the problem. And you're doing fuckall but whine on the internetz about the evils of the two-party system without actually doing the slightest thing to vote your conscience.
        I voted for the candidate I thought was going to be less of an idiot. So far I haven't been proven wrong. Not really sure how that is being part of any collective problem.

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          Originally posted by Shawarma View Post
          Cool. Now how does that relate to anything I just typed out regarding the inflexibility of your two-party system, which by the way is not a constitutional construct?
          You do realize we don't actually have a 2 party system right??

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            https://www.forbes.com/sites/stancol.../#7b545ac277ef

            So basically the GOP tax plan is off to a great start. One thing this article doesn't understand is that billionaires could give two shits about anyone's economy but their own.

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              Originally posted by Bneterasedmynam View Post
              You do realize we don't actually have a 2 party system right??
              Oh yeah, look at alllll these hundreds of elected officials from 3rd party candidates: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_..._United_States

              Oh my fucking god, I am overwhelmed with the sheer numbers! Clearly, this is evidence that you're not actually a de-facto 2-party system. I am stunned by all this evidenceness and slightly less by your bizarre inability to understand the meaning of the term "de facto."

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                Originally posted by Bneterasedmynam View Post
                Not really sure how that is being part of any collective problem.
                Which is pretty much the reason you're part of the collective problem.

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                  Originally posted by submessenger View Post
                  Do you have a more specific question? Because, I just answered that, just then, in the previous post.
                  Uh, no. You quoted some stuff about nobility and whatnot and freedumbs, neither of which are related to multi-party vs two-party systems, considering that voting rights are no longer restricted to the wealthy or aristocratic elite anywhere in the civilised world and that I'm making exactly the argument that your political freedom would actually be a lot greater if you had some more viable parties to pick from.

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                    Originally posted by Shawarma View Post
                    I'm making exactly the argument that your political freedom would actually be a lot greater if you had some more viable parties to pick from.
                    Currently, I have 10. Includes socialist, communists, etc.
                    https://votesmart.org/political-parties/TX#.WhMUrkqnFhE

                    For the prior 15 years, I had 9:
                    https://votesmart.org/political-parties/FL#.WhMU6kqnFhE

                    These are viable parties.

                    I present you with some lists of notable third-party elected officials, and you say that's not enough.

                    I told you that there were more than just Hillary and Trump on the ballot in EVERY state, you still say there are only two parties. (edit) this is really easy to verify, but I imagine you will want sources, so click here: https://www.google.com/search?q=2016...w=1532&bih=903

                    I still choose to be independent of a party, and somehow that confuses you - you think 1bad and I are Republicans, and bnet is a Democrat, based solely on your interpretation of things we've said in the past. By that logic, I have no choice, you've already decided what party I belong to, so why do I need more "freedom?"
                    Consider for a moment that there is no meme about brown-haired, brown-eyed step children.

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                      There are a number of parties indeed, as I already acknowledged multiple times. Only two of them have a chance in hell of attaining anything remotely resembling influence on any level of consequence, as per the wiki link above.

                      Hence, as a supposed "independent", do you vote outside the two-party monopoly? If not, you are not an independent. You're a lukewarm Republican/Democrat.

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                        Originally posted by Shawarma View Post
                        There are a number of parties indeed, as I already acknowledged multiple times. Only two of them have a chance in hell of attaining anything remotely resembling influence on any level of consequence, as per the wiki link above.

                        Hence, as a supposed "independent", do you vote outside the two-party monopoly? If not, you are not an independent. You're a lukewarm Republican/Democrat.
                        I vote issues and conscience. That my issues and conscience happen to line up with one of the two major parties often, I've already explained - we don't vote on toejam. We vote on large, macroscopic issues that most people see as black and white, and the major parties tend to line up on those dichotomies, as well.

                        Like I said earlier, your personal world view is getting in the way of reality. Our system does have deficiencies, but it's still the best system in practice. You still haven't clicked that link in my sig, have you?
                        Consider for a moment that there is no meme about brown-haired, brown-eyed step children.

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                          So, lukewarm Republican/Democrat. Do you at least switch your voting from Republican to Democrat often? If not, might not drop your pretense of "independence", however American it might be.

                          And assuming that your system is not putrid dogshit, like what I postulate, how is it BETTER than multi-party systems? Apart from being slightly less confusing for the more fuckstupid part of the voting public, it seems to me that having more actually VIABLE (note capitalisation there?) parties would generally be an advantage for the voter, considering there's a greater chance of voting for someone who actually represents your views.

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                            Jesse Ventura was a 3rd Party guy, and he was elected to a Governorship.

                            That's a statewide election, so logic says 3d Party people can win Congressional and Senate seats.
                            "Through the centuries, the Jews have endured terrible persecution, and you know that. We've all read it, studied it. They've gone through a lot. And those seeking their destruction, we will seek their destruction." -President Donald Trump, spewing his Nazi, racist, anti-Semitism.

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                              Originally posted by Shawarma View Post
                              So, lukewarm Republican/Democrat. Do you at least switch your voting from Republican to Democrat often? If not, might not drop your pretense of "independence", however American it might be.

                              And assuming that your system is not putrid dogshit, like what I postulate, how is it BETTER than multi-party systems? Apart from being slightly less confusing for the more fuckstupid part of the voting public, it seems to me that having more actually VIABLE (note capitalisation there?) parties would generally be an advantage for the voter, considering there's a greater chance of voting for someone who actually represents your views.
                              LOL. I'm whatever you want me to be, massa.

                              When the question is "yes," or "no," I'm going to go with the one that's gonna get me the yes (assuming that's my position) and not worry about the little shit. The little shit isn't going to happen, most likely.

                              If there are 4 options for an issue, and the "winner," has only 37% of the total vote, that's not a viable solution. That is oppression of the 63% who DON'T agree with the "winner."

                              The USA is not a democracy, btw. Learn it, live it, love it.
                              Consider for a moment that there is no meme about brown-haired, brown-eyed step children.

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                                Originally posted by submessenger View Post
                                LOL. I'm whatever you want me to be, massa.

                                When the question is "yes," or "no," I'm going to go with the one that's gonna get me the yes (assuming that's my position) and not worry about the little shit. The little shit isn't going to happen, most likely.

                                If there are 4 options for an issue, and the "winner," has only 37% of the total vote, that's not a viable solution. That is oppression of the 63% who DON'T agree with the "winner."

                                The USA is not a democracy, btw. Learn it, live it, love it.
                                Indeed. Which is why the parties with the most votes in less cartoonish countries need to form coalitions in order to govern, unless they hold a majority by themselves. This is why Theresa May fucked up royally last election since she lost her majority and thus had to align her conservative party with pseudofascist Irishmen in order to maintain a majority.

                                This is not oppression. Why do you believe it to be so?

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