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    Originally posted by Devil View Post
    Well, he's a socialist and thinks we're going to give people free shit with imaginary money, for starters.
    Firstly, please see my aforementioned point about Americans not using the s-word as they've no fucking clue what it means, Sanders included. Secondly, his economic policies did not constitute crazy. Unrealistic for an economy such as the American, perhaps, but definitely sane. Free college, for instance is considered almost a human right in a number of countries without this somehow leading to an outbreak of communism and wanton anal sex.

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      Originally posted by Devil View Post
      Who the fuck is Dan Schneider and why the fuck should I care what he thinks?
      And you called yourself a conservative...shucks man, don't you EVER tell the truth?

      I guess it's too easy to troll and claim to be a right-winger, with so many lefties to torture online. Trolling right-wingers is actually harder work, as you're learning.

      Remember the words of Schwarzenegger, Devil (you know him right?)

      Come with me if you want to lift.

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        This is effective, but dumbs down the voting populace in the extreme. The American voting populace does not need more dumbing down.
        If you say so. They attempted to assassinate Trump's character, go ahead try to be funny and he acted like a complete ass. I said it earlier, Clinton hid and Trump attacked. No one wants to acknowledge he did it right because the US would have to rethink this entire "clean election" and "everybody wins" bullshit which has REALLY "dumbed" down America.

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          Originally posted by BKR View Post
          Yeah, when I lived in Pocatello, I would sometimes listen to these two bat-shit crazy LDS ladies who had their own A.M. radio show. They had their own definition of conservative AND Republican to boot. Anybody else was the proverbial RINO, or worst...
          Yeah but CPAC isn't two old bat-shit crazy ladies.

          CPAC is what defines conservatism in 2017. That's why all the different conservatives go to CPAC...to find common ground. The CPAC straw polls are practically what guides GOP selections for Presidential nominees, and what ultimately led to both George W. Bush's and Mitt Romney's presidential nominations.

          Who here has been to CPAC? I sure have, and I've written about it, too. It's HUGE and you will find practically every kind of conservative there from radical activists to old guard.

          You know who you WON'T find there? The Alt-Right leadership.

          So, time to stop calling yourself "Alt-Right" and just go ahead with the real subtext: Alt-National Socialist. These guys don't want limited government. They need big government so they can enforce their dark agenda, which according to the founder of the movement (Spencer), starts by kicking all the non-Caucasians out of North America.

          And, to bring it back to the Trumpster, let's not forget his chief strategist is a huge fan of Spencer, and that their politics are not that dissimilar.
          Last edited by Pship Destroyer; 2/23/2017 2:22pm, .

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            Originally posted by Shawarma View Post
            I also did not say it was not par for the course. I merely pointed out that the spurious attacks and her therefore perceived "awfulness" are the reason she is so villified.

            It is well documented indeed. It is also, largely, made up. Which is frankly surprising, because somebody with as long a history in high-level politics as Clinton has far fewer verifiable skeletons in the closet than her opposition has been able to dig up.
            No, you're wrong. Her awfulness is not "therefore perceived" because of spurious attacks. She has had some lies told on her. No doubt. I've discussed that myself on Bullshido. That shit is still a drop in the bucket compared to what she has earned on her own. She is a lying, manipulative bitch who has concern for her own power and nothing else.

            There is nothing made up about her own lies. You don't have to say shit to prove how insincere she is. All you have to do is roll the footage.

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              Originally posted by Shawarma View Post
              Firstly, please see my aforementioned point about Americans not using the s-word as they've no fucking clue what it means, Sanders included. Secondly, his economic policies did not constitute crazy. Unrealistic for an economy such as the American, perhaps, but definitely sane. Free college, for instance is considered almost a human right in a number of countries without this somehow leading to an outbreak of communism and wanton anal sex.
              I know exactly what the fuck socialism is and Bernie Sanders is a fucking socialist, just like you. Socialists love to play this game like socialism is so fucking complex and hard to understand. No, it's really not at all. You play those fucking games because you know the truth is ugly so you want to sugarcoat it. Bernie Sanders is a socialist.

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                Originally posted by Pship Destroyer View Post
                And you called yourself a conservative...shucks man, don't you EVER tell the truth?

                I guess it's too easy to troll and claim to be a right-winger, with so many lefties to torture online. Trolling right-wingers is actually harder work, as you're learning.

                Remember the words of Schwarzenegger, Devil (you know him right?)

                Come with me if you want to lift.
                I fly solo, son. I'm not studying what anybody else thinks. I can think for myself.

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                  Originally posted by Devil View Post
                  I know exactly what the fuck socialism is and Bernie Sanders is a fucking socialist, just like you.
                  Obrigado for proving my point, dear sir. You're utterly incapable of perceiving nuance in the left-right political spectrum and, as a result, your opinion on these matters is irrelevant.

                  And I vote centrist, incidentally. I'm fortunate enough to reside in a country with a less dysfunctional political system where such a thing is actually possible.

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                    Originally posted by Devil View Post
                    who has concern for her own power and nothing else.
                    .
                    This part of it's true, at least. But not particularly novel for a career politician.

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                      Originally posted by Shawarma View Post
                      Obrigado for proving my point, dear sir. You're utterly incapable of perceiving nuance in the left-right political spectrum and, as a result, your opinion on these matters is irrelevant.

                      And I vote centrist, incidentally. I'm fortunate enough to reside in a country with a less dysfunctional political system where such a thing is actually possible.
                      "Oh, socialism is too complex for anyone to ever understand!!!! Unless they're me, of course!!! We're not crazy at all!!! They just don't understand us!!"

                      No, motherfucker. We understand clearly. You want to take shit from the strong and capable and give it to the weak and pathetic because you're a socialist, just like Bernie Sanders. You don't get to hide behind your pretend complexity. There is none. The only complexity exists in your mind when you try to justify your own asinine position.

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                        Originally posted by Shawarma View Post
                        This part of it's true, at least. But not particularly novel for a career politician.
                        She has gone further out of her way to prove it than any politician I can think of, except for maybe Kwame Kilpatrick.

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                          OK Devil you've been a sport so I'll let you in on a secret: I spent a little time trolling liberals online too during the election, back when it started. I thought it was shameful but silly and harmless fun.

                          But I had to stop, because all these fucking Nazi skinheads started showing up to troll the liberals, and I didn't want to be associated with them. I felt bad because while I just wanted to debate and chuckle, here were real assholes coming in, trying to take over the government.

                          And they sort of succeeded, didn't they. At least their candidate did, and I'm still waiting for Trump to disown these fuckers the way his PARTY has. I think he's too slow and confused, or something, to even realize what's going on (hence the conferences where he was asked about recent spikes in anti-Semitism, and he responded by bragging about his electoral count, and still had to lie about it).

                          It turns out as much as I dislike many liberal ideals, I dislike fascism even more, and when it comes to politics I can compromise with liberals, but I'll never give fascists anything more than my middle finger.
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                            Originally posted by Pship Destroyer View Post
                            OK Devil you've been a sport so I'll let you in on a secret: I spent a little time trolling liberals online too during the election, back when it started. I thought it was shameful but silly and harmless fun.

                            But I had to stop, because all these fucking Nazi skinheads started showing up to troll liberals, and I didn't want to be associated with them.

                            It turns out as much as I dislike many liberal ideals, I dislike fascism even more, and when it comes to politics I can compromise with liberals, but I'll never give fascists anything more than my middle finger.
                            You are a liar, a liberal and a fraud.

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                              Originally posted by Shawarma View Post
                              I also did not say it was not par for the course. I merely pointed out that the spurious attacks and her therefore perceived "awfulness" are the reason she is so villified.

                              It is well documented indeed. It is also, largely, made up. Which is frankly surprising, because somebody with as long a history in high-level politics as Clinton has far fewer verifiable skeletons in the closet than her opposition has been able to dig up.
                              You keep using "majority" and "largely made up."

                              Sounds like you are reading articles which only show "Titanic" issues. She has many skeletons and I am not sure why you think there are so few in 20 years. More than other politicians, not really. Enough for a propaganda campaign to screw you out of being the first Woman President? Yep.

                              Let me add one other thing, OJ was acquitted, millions of people believe he is a murderer or conspired with the accusation. At least, in a court of law, I can understand the argument of not guilty and saying " it isn't true." He had a jury of peers who, we can believe or argue, were supposed to be impartial. Politics are not the same as a judgement by jury in a court of law. Clinton could be 100% guilty, but my constituents will vote me out if I boot her. If I go against my parties voting I can be booted. If I do not go with the PAC who supported me I can get booted. She could be 100% innocent, but....see above. No, I am not altruistic. Hell, if you watched what happened from about 2010 until now, you KNOW the bias I am talking about.

                              Sorry, her acquittals do not carry the same weight with me or many others as they do to you. Yes, this is coming from someone who believes the emails and Benghazi were used a propaganda and wrong. Still, I know I could look like a "dumb" voter if it is proven later, like Iran/Contra, she was involved to a level we never realized.
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                                Originally posted by Devil View Post
                                You are a liar, a liberal and a fraud.
                                I'm not going to be your friend if you keep that up..

                                I thought you were a REAL conservative...but you didn't know who Dan Schneider was, the Executive Director of CPAC?

                                You, sir, are hereby banned from Conservatism forever.

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