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    Originally posted by Ice Hole View Post
    Na.

    I got disqualified for sweating, my heart rate, and my breathing. AKA, what I did at the gym tonight.

    I didn't have a social media presence either time I was interrogated.

    Correction: I was never disqualified, but that's what it felt like at the time. I told them goodbye.
    So you're incapable of not showing glaring signs of stress while under pressure. Sounds like an obvious disqualifier to me.

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      Originally posted by ghost55 View Post
      So you're incapable of not showing glaring signs of stress while under pressure. Sounds like an obvious disqualifier to me.

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        Originally posted by Ice Hole View Post
        I bet I could break you in under 5min of clawboarding.

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          Originally posted by ghost55 View Post
          I bet I could break you in under 5min of clawboarding.
          Having gotten through 3 NSA interrogations and still being asked to return for more, I'd take that bet any day.

          Fyi, the signs of "stress" the polygraph looks for are undetectable by the human eye. Microscopic beads of sweat on your fingertips, etc. Slightly increased pulse. A couple extra or too few breaths per minute. Pseudoscientific bullshit.

          With your neurology, you'd trigger the machine just under questioning, regardless of the question.

          Diane Sawyer was trained to beat the test in minutes. And the worst spies in US history passed many with no problems.

          So I agree, all new federal employees should just be Clawboarded. It'd be cheaper and more effective. I'll pass your recommendation on.

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            I have known people with fairly "interesting" mental illness get into the NSA as W2 employees on the technical side.

            As well as health problems such as insulin dependent diabetes that can cause mood swings, etc. if the insulin is not right.

            Working in those environments tends to make people more paranoid than they were before.

            And, one could argue that the right baseline paranoia is a virtue in those environments.

            But mental illness, or even susceptibility to mood swings, depending on circumstance, does not always seem to preclude people from getting hired by that agency.

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              The irony is I passed a 400 question psych battery with no problem. I should post some of the test questions, they were surreal.

              Ultimately I got the job, I just got fed up after almost a year of security clearance processing because like a naive 21 year old, I thought the polygraph was a fair test. Nope. I turned into Chunk from The Goonies. Still "inconclusive".

              After my third trip to BWI I said fuck this, I'm staying in Massachusetts with Mrs. Rabbit. So, no Jack Ryan for me. I did better.

              Always follow your heart, Ghost. You'll either be Jack Ryan someday, or better. I can feel it.

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                It is often a two year screening.

                And they ask anybody and everybody who knows you about you.

                In fact, they are pretty pushy about it with the third parties.

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                  Originally posted by Krampus View Post
                  It is often a two year screening.

                  And they ask anybody and everybody who knows you about you.

                  In fact, they are pretty pushy about it with the third parties.
                  Yeah I went through all that and was all done. Not much to look into when you're barely out of college.

                  I was a Dudley Do Right with a flawless record. Polygraph suggested I was a serious criminal hiding wickedness.

                  Whatever. I chose the better path.

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                    Originally posted by ghost55 View Post
                    I don't aspire to be either. I'd lose my shit if I had to wear a tie and work in a cube farm coming up with ways to overthrow small Latin American companies on behalf of the United Fruit Company.
                    Jesus Christ. Have you ever read an English language newspaper regarding the unbridled shitfest that goes on in South America?

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                      Originally posted by Dung Beatles View Post
                      Jesus Christ. Have you ever read an English language newspaper regarding the unbridled shitfest that goes on in South America?
                      Yeah. I've also spent a decent amount of time there. The CIA did some horrible shit to them.

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                        Originally posted by ghost55 View Post
                        Yeah. I've also spent a decent amount of time there. The CIA did some horrible shit to them.
                        No you didn't.

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                          Originally posted by Ice Hole View Post
                          No you didn't.
                          I've spent a month in Nicaragua, Ecuador, and Peru each. I have an additional few weeks in Belize and Costa Rica. I also speak pretty good Spanish. I don't know why that sounds implausible to you.

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                            Originally posted by ghost55 View Post
                            I've spent a month in Nicaragua, Ecuador, and Peru each. I have an additional few weeks in Belize and Costa Rica. I also speak pretty good Spanish. I don't know why that sounds implausible to you.
                            OK, Che. I get it now.

                            You should get on the podcasts and speak some real espanol.

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                              You both should.

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                                Originally posted by Ice Hole View Post
                                OK, Che. I get it now.

                                You should get on the podcasts and speak some real espanol.
                                I have no decent microphone and am fucking terrible at podcasting.

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