If a woman wants to be safe she must live in the civilized part of the world

[killface]

Reading the comments here makes me appreciate that I live in the civilized part of the world. If you have a need to use firearms for home protection, there is something seriously wrong with the society that you live in.

[Devil]

Reading the comments here makes me appreciate that I live in the civilized part of the world. If you have a need to use firearms for home protection, there is something seriously wrong with the society that you live in.

There are people in every society that will kill you, fuck your wife and children, take all your shit and leave - just for the fun of it. Failing to recognize that threat doesn't mean it doesn't exist. It just means you have your head up your ass.

[Carlos13th]

Devil. You say you need a firearm and thats a fair point but some people do not have that luxury. Some of us live in places where firearms are illegal. You say if you dont have a firearm you are wrong but as I said not everyone has that choice.

Killface I am still undecided about how I feel about firearms being legal in general, at the moment I think I am glad to live in a country without them but I dont think they should be taken away from people in America either. This break in and assault could have happened in any country with or without firearms.

[killface]

There are people in every society that will kill you, fuck your wife and children, take all your shit and leave - just for the fun of it. Failing to recognize that threat doesn't mean it doesn't exist. It just means you have your head up your ass.

True but these people are very rare and the likehood of me becoming a victim of these people is very small. It it not worth to invest time and energy in this "treat" when there are better things to do.

[Devil]

Devil. You say you need a firearm and thats a fair point but some people do not have that luxury. Some of us live in places where firearms are illegal. You say if you dont have a firearm you are wrong but as I said not everyone has that choice.

If you can't legally own a firearm, then you can't. You live in an oppressive society and your government is putting you in a position of weakness. Your family as in danger and you can't defend yourself against criminals who obtain firearms. Simple.

True but these people are very rare and the likehood of me becoming a victim of these people is very small. It it not worth to invest time and energy in this "treat" when there are better things to do.

That sounds really smart until someone is fucking your children.

[killface]

Killface I am still undecided about how I feel about firearms being legal in general, at the moment I think I am glad to live in a country without them but I dont think they should be taken away from people in America either. This break in and assault could have happened in any country with or without firearms.

I basically agree with you. Sometimes I am quite glad to live in a country were not everyone has an firearm but on the other hand there are strong points for the right to carry arms from an political point of view. I think neither banning guns completely is a solution (as people always find ways to get them) nor no gun-control at all. One needs to find some good compromise.

Anyway the point is: nobody should NEED to own guns to protect themselves.

[Devil]

Anyway the point is: nobody should NEED to own guns to protect themselves.

But we do. I do and you do. The difference between you and I is that I acknowledge the need and you ignore it.

[It is Fake]

Anyway the point is: nobody should NEED to own guns to protect themselves.

But that isn't what you said.

Reading the comments here makes me appreciate that I live in the civilized part of the world. If you have a need to use firearms for home protection, there is something seriously wrong with the society that you live in.

So, no, that wasn't your point.

So, apparently any place that uses firearms for home protection is uncivilized and something is wrong with that society. Does this apply to all weapons or the ones that upset you?

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[killface]

But we do. I do and you do. The difference between you and I is that I acknowledge the need and you ignore it.

I doubt you really need. If you really want to claim this you need to crawl up some statistics and calculate the like-hood of an home assault (actual assault, not robbery). If it is at least 1/2 of the like-hood of dieing in an car accident, I am going to change my mind and you win. For now, you are just talking bullshit.

But that isn't what you said. So, no, that wasn't your point.

So, apparently any place that uses firearms for home protection is uncivilized and something is wrong with that society. Does this apply to all weapons or the ones that upset you?

[It is Fake]

Is my English really so hard to understand or are you playing games?

Welcome to English 101 where semantics will screw up your point. So, in actuality, you are playing games or do not fully understand English.

Reading the comments here makes me appreciate that I live in the civilized part of the world. If you have a need to use firearms for home protection, there is something seriously wrong with the society that you live in.

A society were being assaulted is so common that fire-arms are a must, is obviously less civilized than one were this is not.

No matter how much you try to shift your point, these two posts are saying different things. They are related, but one is less aggressive than the other.

"any place that uses firearms for home protection is uncivilized" Bullshit, never said that!
A society were being assaulted is so common that fire-arms are a must, is obviously less civilized than one were this is not.

You know less civilized is basically equal to uncivilized right? Yes, I summarized your point. I could have done more, but chose not to.

and? I never brought this up in my response.

It is all your imagination.

Really? Says the guy talking about bad and wrong when I said nothing about that.

"Does this apply to all weapons or the ones that upset you??" WTF? Where in the fucking post do I talk about weapon upsetting me. Why the fuck would I get upset on a tool?

Well, we are talking about guns and now you are cursing up a storm. I read that tenseness in your post and look what happened.

How about you ague about the things I actually wrote?

I did. I then asked you a question you did not answer.

[killface]

This is tricky, since Home Invasion is not a crime by itself; it is step #1 of other crimes.

No matter how much you try to shift your point, these two posts are saying different things. They are related, but one is less aggressive than the other.

Different posts of me obviously say different things. For you to have a point you need to find actual contradictions. I did not intend to make my posts sound aggressive. The first had a certain degree of smugness in it though like saying "I cant hear you over my free health care".

You know less civilized is basically equal to uncivilized right?

What is your point?

Well, we are talking about guns and now you are cursing up a storm. I read that tenseness in your post and look what happened.

Cursing indicates that I am have a bad relationship with guns? Now you are being silly.

I then asked you a question you did not answer.

[It is Fake]

Different posts of me obviously say different things. For you to have a point you need to find actual contradictions. I did not intend to make my posts sound aggressive. The first had a certain degree of smugness in it though like saying "I cant hear you over my free health care".

No, you can disagree without having contradictions. You went from an absolute to a "less" than absolute. Then you admit you were smug instead of aggressive. So, you got my point.

Cursing indicates that I am have a bad relationship with guns? Now you are being silly.

No, silly is the guy saying you must recognize contradictions to have a point.

As I never claimed that using fire-arms for home protection is uncivilized, so I am of course not going to answer the question.

Yes, you did. Do, I need to seriously break down what you said and explain inference? Now, if you want to back off of what you stated that is fine.

Reading the comments here makes me appreciate that I live in the civilized part of the world. If you have a need to use firearms for home protection, there is something seriously wrong with the society that you live in.

Simply put:

Does this apply to all weapons or the ones that upset you?

gun control stuff because I do not grasp sarcasm yet

I never said anything about your feelings on gun control.

BUT what i would NOT do is talk bad about people that don�t have fire-arms at home.

I know, you just talk bad about countries and societies you don't understand in a negative fashion.

[killface]

No, you can disagree without having contradictions. You went from an absolute to a "less" than absolute. Then you admit you were smug instead of aggressive. So, you got my point.

Do, I need to seriously break down what you said and explain inference?

Does this apply to all weapons or the ones that upset you?

To all weapons. To all security tools. In a ideal society you would not need to lock the door.

Does this answer it?

[It is Fake]

So in the first post I was a bit smug, in the second not so much. So what, is it wrong?

I explained it, if you don't understand too bad.

Repeating this doesn't change my original answer, see above.

I'm not up to anything. You keep backing off of your original post as I keep explaining it to you.

To all weapons. To all security tools. In a ideal society you would not need to lock the door.

Does this answer it?

Nope.
You basically, please look that word up before you comment, passive aggressively insulted America and its society. So, I am asking you WHICH weapons are you allowed to use that would make a country be civilized like where you live. You know, so their society isn't " seriously wrong."