so over here in good old NZ we recently became the 13th country in the world to legalise gay marriage. a few thoughts-
Marriage has nothing to do with christianity. im getting married next year and there is zero religion involved. marriage is governed by the state which is supposed to support every citizen regardless of what (if any) religion they follow.
following on from that, what is the logical opposition to gay people being married? if in your country being gay is illegal, or your country is ruled in a religious manner, then it makes more sense. as soon as being gay is legal in your country then being allowed to marry should reasonably become legal straight away, because otherwise whats happening is a straight up discrimination for no apparent reason.
another thought- what does allowing gay people to marry do that is bad for the rest of us? i hear a lot about "moral decay" etc but when the majoirty of marriage ends in divorce anyway im not sure thats a valid (and also pretty damn vague) thing. i also hear the "what about the children!" arguement which is more valid. surrogate kids or adopted kids with gay parents being hassled at school etc? sure. at the same time though, now that having two dads or two mums is accepted in law, does it follow that it will over time become more acceptable to the public?
it wasnt that long ago that black people had to sit at the back of the bus in america, im sure when they first changed it people were sensitive but does it matter now? people adjust to these things. give it a generation and nobody will give a fuck if you have two dads. i knew kids who were openly gay at school and people didnt really give a shit. public opinion swings and kids are usually pretty open to societal change.
as for what it gives us- an economic boost for one. gay people are generally better off financially, and now they get to have big fabulous weddings, complete with big fabulous pricetags. they get to be in on marriage jokes finally. and obviously the biggest one is simply recognition of what is a basic human right- any hetero, even the lowliest piece of shit scum sucker can get married, but a gay person who is a paragon cant? hardly seems fair. most gay people i know have no intention of getting married but are quite happy that they have the option if they want, like any other regular joe.
lastly, a nice little speech from one of our ministers. his point about the drought ending is quite hilarious to me because ive heard a bunch of shit from various corners about how our recent drought was due to this bill going through parliament. what happens the day it goes through? pours with rain, rainbows fucking EVERYWHERE. its been rain and rainbows since the bill, right on the verge of some of our biggest cities running out of water. i find that just fucking hilarious.
Marriage has nothing to do with christianity. im getting married next year and there is zero religion involved. marriage is governed by the state which is supposed to support every citizen regardless of what (if any) religion they follow.
following on from that, what is the logical opposition to gay people being married? if in your country being gay is illegal, or your country is ruled in a religious manner, then it makes more sense. as soon as being gay is legal in your country then being allowed to marry should reasonably become legal straight away, because otherwise whats happening is a straight up discrimination for no apparent reason.
another thought- what does allowing gay people to marry do that is bad for the rest of us? i hear a lot about "moral decay" etc but when the majoirty of marriage ends in divorce anyway im not sure thats a valid (and also pretty damn vague) thing. i also hear the "what about the children!" arguement which is more valid. surrogate kids or adopted kids with gay parents being hassled at school etc? sure. at the same time though, now that having two dads or two mums is accepted in law, does it follow that it will over time become more acceptable to the public?
it wasnt that long ago that black people had to sit at the back of the bus in america, im sure when they first changed it people were sensitive but does it matter now? people adjust to these things. give it a generation and nobody will give a fuck if you have two dads. i knew kids who were openly gay at school and people didnt really give a shit. public opinion swings and kids are usually pretty open to societal change.
as for what it gives us- an economic boost for one. gay people are generally better off financially, and now they get to have big fabulous weddings, complete with big fabulous pricetags. they get to be in on marriage jokes finally. and obviously the biggest one is simply recognition of what is a basic human right- any hetero, even the lowliest piece of shit scum sucker can get married, but a gay person who is a paragon cant? hardly seems fair. most gay people i know have no intention of getting married but are quite happy that they have the option if they want, like any other regular joe.
lastly, a nice little speech from one of our ministers. his point about the drought ending is quite hilarious to me because ive heard a bunch of shit from various corners about how our recent drought was due to this bill going through parliament. what happens the day it goes through? pours with rain, rainbows fucking EVERYWHERE. its been rain and rainbows since the bill, right on the verge of some of our biggest cities running out of water. i find that just fucking hilarious.
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