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    Texas secession?

    WE PETITION THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION TO:
    Peacefully grant the State of Texas to withdraw from the United States of America and create its own NEW government.

    The US continues to suffer economic difficulties stemming from the federal government's neglect to reform domestic and foreign spending. The citizens of the US suffer from blatant abuses of their rights such as the NDAA, the TSA, etc. Given that the state of Texas maintains a balanced budget and is the 15th largest economy in the world, it is practically feasible for Texas to withdraw from the union, and to do so would protect it's citizens' standard of living and re-secure their rights and liberties in accordance with the original ideas and beliefs of our founding fathers which are no longer being reflected by the federal government.
    https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/pet...nment/BmdWCP8B


    Seriously?

    #2
    The right to secede was a provision of Texas joining the union back in the day. That said, no one besides nut jobs has ever seriously considered it.
    Shut the hell up and train.

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      #3
      Ok, thanks for the info.

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        #4
        Originally posted by jnp View Post
        The right to secede was a provision of Texas joining the union back in the day. That said, no one besides nut jobs has ever seriously considered it.
        I think the right to secede was retained by the original 13 states when ratifying the constitution as well. We had a little argument about that a few years later.
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          #5
          This post-Obama whining from Texas should be taken as seriously as the Second Vermont Republic was in 2004.

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            #6
            How much oil do they have left? I say once that is gone so they can go.
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              #7
              Originally posted by DCS View Post
              [I]Given that the state of Texas maintains a balanced budget and is the 15th largest economy in the world, it is practically feasible for Texas to withdraw from the union, and to do so would protect it's citizens' standard of living
              And among the last in education, last in healthcare, and last in job creation.

              The only reason Texas' economy is doing so well is they have more direct access to cheap labor.

              Oh and at least 90% of the state is a desert.
              '“I am no advocate of passivity,” Coffin Mott said in an 1860 speech. “Quakerism, as I understand it, does not mean quietism. The early Friends were agitators; disturbers of the peace; and were more obnoxious in their day to charges, which are now so freely made, than we are.”'

              My Glossary: https://www.bullshido.net/forums/sho...d.php?t=129294

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                #8
                They should do it, so they could win the award for Country with the Least Tourism.

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                  #9
                  Messin' with Texas time? Not from my part :)

                  I saw the petition mentioned in a politics forum and I found it strange. But if this was provisioned back in the day, so be it. That's what democracy and rule of law is about, isn't it?

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                    #10
                    Come the Neo Ice Age all you Yankies will be far more contrite

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by W. Rabbit View Post
                      And among the last in education, last in healthcare, and last in job creation.

                      The only reason Texas' economy is doing so well is they have more direct access to cheap labor.
                      I'd like you to source your facts in your first paragraph.

                      I'd say the oil and gas industry has something to do with our robust economy as well.


                      Originally posted by W. Rabbit View Post
                      Oh and at least 90% of the state is a desert.
                      Really?

                      Originally posted by http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geography_of_Texas
                      Continental, Mountain, and Modified Marine are the three major climatic types of Texas, with no distinguishable boundaries. Modified Marine, or subtropical, dominates the majority of the state.[3] Texas has an annual precipitation range from 60.57 inches (1,538 mm) in Jasper County, East Texas, to 9.43 inches (240 mm) in El Paso.

                      With 10 climatic regions, 14 soil regions, and 11 distinct ecological regions, regional classification becomes problematic with differences in soils, topography, geology, rainfall, and plant and animal communities.[9]
                      Shut the hell up and train.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by jnp View Post
                        I'd like you to source your facts in your first paragraph.

                        I'd say the oil and gas industry has something to do with our robust economy as well.
                        That was the desert comment...oil, desert...former marine bed. Sorry for being cryptic. You're right I was being general and greatly exaggerating.

                        The only way I can make Texas' job creation record look good is to source Rick Perry.

                        As far as education and healthcare I would post them, but it'll just be depressing. I'd start with statistics from state.tx.us
                        Last edited by W. Rabbit; 11/12/2012 2:29pm, .
                        '“I am no advocate of passivity,” Coffin Mott said in an 1860 speech. “Quakerism, as I understand it, does not mean quietism. The early Friends were agitators; disturbers of the peace; and were more obnoxious in their day to charges, which are now so freely made, than we are.”'

                        My Glossary: https://www.bullshido.net/forums/sho...d.php?t=129294

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                          #13
                          Here without resorting to year-by-year analyses and conceding that at least last TWO years in Texas have shown some improvement in their historically abysmal high school dropout rates and test scores, the very fact that their governments are under siege by, quote

                          "true conservative Christians"...
                          should be enough to steer rational people out of "Texas' corner" (and by that I mean radicals in Texas) on the issue of secession.

                          Evolution vs. Creationism: TX State Board of Ed to Debate Public School Curriculum

                          The board is under the new leadership of Chairwoman Barbara Cargill, a former biology teacher who disputes the theory of evolution. She is considered to be one of the panel’s more conservative members. She explains:

                          “Right now there are six true conservative Christians on the board, so we have to fight for two votes.”
                          Last edited by W. Rabbit; 11/12/2012 2:41pm, .
                          '“I am no advocate of passivity,” Coffin Mott said in an 1860 speech. “Quakerism, as I understand it, does not mean quietism. The early Friends were agitators; disturbers of the peace; and were more obnoxious in their day to charges, which are now so freely made, than we are.”'

                          My Glossary: https://www.bullshido.net/forums/sho...d.php?t=129294

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                            #14
                            I think this just about sums up my feelings regarding Texas seceding.

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                              #15
                              Let them do it. It'll be funny.
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