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    #61
    If you didn't go to Phoenix, you ain't shit!

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      #62
      Originally posted by Rivington View Post
      At least the OP is thinking of community college rather than one of those for-profit McLearningUniversity.com scams.
      Hey dude, the video game industry is starving for some more stoned Adult Swim watchers to take their stacks of money.

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        #63
        Originally posted by Rivington View Post
        At least the OP is thinking of community college rather than one of those for-profit McLearningUniversity.com scams.
        As a expensive joke. I have a Master's Degree in Computational Engineering from some online college. It was $80. I had to do 4, 3 hour classes. It was not as funny as I thought it was going to be.

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          #64
          Since things have to be said in as explicit of a manner as possible here.
          Order of importance for getting a new job:
          Relevant Professional Certifications (Things you may need to even legally be able to do the job)
          Knowing people in the industry.
          Previous Job titles that closely match what you are trying to get.
          A history of improving Job titles and consistent and steady work.
          A piece of paper that says you made it through the academic bullshit that has nothing to do with your job.

          Don't get me wrong school is good, its a place where you can go and learn the skills you need, meet the people you need to meet and start to get real world experience.
          Just don't expect to come out of school with a BA and expect to make more than 40k or so if you don't have any other real world relevant experience.

          This also sadly includes at this moment in time things like Engineering, I have a buddy that is an engineering manager at Motorola that just hired 4 Electrical Engineers straight out of college for 38K a year a piece. Now they where not the brightest or the best and all had 0 other real world experience other than maybe working at hot dog on a stick.

          If they stick out their work on the right projects in a few years they can go else where and start to make some real money.
          Of the single rapier fight between valiant men, having both skill, he that is the best wrestler, or if neither of them can wrestle, the strongest man most commonly kills the other, or leaves him at his mercy.
          –George Silver, Paradoxes of Defence

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            #65
            Originally posted by Dr. Sleepless View Post
            As a expensive joke. I have a Master's Degree in Computational Engineering from some online college. It was $80. I had to do 4, 3 hour classes. It was not as funny as I thought it was going to be.
            Question, do you put that Masters on your resume when job hunting?
            Of the single rapier fight between valiant men, having both skill, he that is the best wrestler, or if neither of them can wrestle, the strongest man most commonly kills the other, or leaves him at his mercy.
            –George Silver, Paradoxes of Defence

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              #66
              Of course not, he's not that stupid.

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                #67
                I'll give you the advice I always give in this situation, but its more geared towards the chemistry end of the spectrum rather than CS.

                I really think you should pick an area that you want to do or are interested in. It's going to help you in the long run. It's far better to wait a few years and find something you're interested in than just going "for the experience".

                I would also suggest that while you have to fulfill certain degree requirements, I would make sure that any degree program includes a hefty dose of lab/skill oriented coursework, as opposed to only lecture courses. Ideally, you want to be able to show you have skills using say a GC or a toshiba ion trap MS or something like that. Even better if you're lucky and get a work study position in that area.

                Also, you can save a shit load of money taking care of prereqs at a community college, if you're going for a specialized degree.
                http://woodwardswhiskey.wordpress.com/

                He was punching him like the collective karmic debt he'd accrued was coming to collections, mostly on his face.

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by Dr. Sleepless View Post
                  As a expensive joke. I have a Master's Degree in Computational Engineering from some online college. It was $80. I had to do 4, 3 hour classes. It was not as funny as I thought it was going to be.
                  No effing way!

                  Please post links. Not trolling (for once). This I gotta see!

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                    #69
                    Re: "I Love College"

                    Originally posted by Rivington View Post
                    If you are incapable of understanding basic figurative language, you will be wasting your time in college. I would second the suggestion to find work in sanitation, which is a perfectly fine job, that often pays well, is crucial for civilization, and that has high enough turnover that you could probably find something in the field.
                    I thought I understood, I asked for clarification because nobody I have ever met referred to anyone as the "ook ook i gotz degree" crowd or "rock stars". As far as the sanitation route goes, I agree with everyone. Decent wages, benefits, job security. However, if I get a degree would that not be a better option? I could understand sanitation as a temporary means to an end, but it's not like I'm mentally handicapped and that is my only/best option. Any tests I have ever applied myself on throughout school and life I breezed through.

                    Originally posted by Dr. Sleepless View Post
                    You know what? You should do it. I would love to see you dump gobs of money and find yourself in a lot of debt over something you won't be good at that you'll make like $15/hr working at geek squad over.
                    Why so angry??


                    Here's what you should do.

                    1. Go get whatever degree you fancy. Since you think that a business degree can get you in the door for an electrical engineering position, just go ahead and get started on that.

                    2. Fill out an application at Geek Squad.

                    3. Profit. It's that easy.

                    It won't be hard at all. Nope. Just go and do it.
                    If you weren't such a reactionary putz you might have realised that I do not believe a business degree would get me in the door as an electrical engineer. I'll separate my two sentence paragraph into two paragraphs from now on so you can keep up.

                    Originally posted by jubei33 View Post
                    I'll give you the advice I always give in this situation, but its more geared towards the chemistry end of the spectrum rather than CS.

                    I really think you should pick an area that you want to do or are interested in. It's going to help you in the long run. It's far better to wait a few years and find something you're interested in than just going "for the experience".

                    I would also suggest that while you have to fulfill certain degree requirements, I would make sure that any degree program includes a hefty dose of lab/skill oriented coursework, as opposed to only lecture courses. Ideally, you want to be able to show you have skills using say a GC or a toshiba ion trap MS or something like that. Even better if you're lucky and get a work study position in that area.

                    Also, you can save a shit load of money taking care of prereqs at a community college, if you're going for a specialized degree.
                    Thank you for the thoughts. I was already planning to try to find a work study position for whatever field I do get into, how fucking sweet of a deal is that program!
                    Originally posted by Mr. Machette
                    Lift a lot of weights and sexually assault anyone who tries step to you. Flip the script. Watch that fight turn to flight when you go for penetration.
                    Originally posted by Raycetpfl
                    Just for future reference dude..... when you are doing it right you don't soil your under-roos when you nail chicks.

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                      #70
                      Re: "I Love College"

                      On another note, would say my ASVAB scores maybe be a good indicator of what I would be good at?
                      Originally posted by Mr. Machette
                      Lift a lot of weights and sexually assault anyone who tries step to you. Flip the script. Watch that fight turn to flight when you go for penetration.
                      Originally posted by Raycetpfl
                      Just for future reference dude..... when you are doing it right you don't soil your under-roos when you nail chicks.

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                        #71
                        Originally posted by itwasntme View Post
                        On another note, would say my ASVAB scores maybe be a good indicator of what I would be good at?
                        I am going to go with no, the ASVAB test for such a basic level of understanding in all of the different subjects that its really no indicator.
                        More like if you had an area that you did particularly bad in you may want to avoid.
                        Of the single rapier fight between valiant men, having both skill, he that is the best wrestler, or if neither of them can wrestle, the strongest man most commonly kills the other, or leaves him at his mercy.
                        –George Silver, Paradoxes of Defence

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                          #72
                          Originally posted by itwasntme View Post

                          What is this?
                          It is the book that I believe that will help you answer your question. Please read it. Look it up on Amazon, "Shop Class as Soulcraft".

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                            #73
                            Re: "I Love College"

                            Originally posted by goodlun View Post
                            I am going to go with no, the ASVAB test for such a basic level of understanding in all of the different subjects that its really no indicator.
                            More like if you had an area that you did particularly bad in you may want to avoid.
                            That is unfortunate as I feel I scored very well on it for not having been in any academic classes in 7 or 8 years. I don't think I did poorly in any subject. I scored an 85 overall.
                            Originally posted by Mr. Machette
                            Lift a lot of weights and sexually assault anyone who tries step to you. Flip the script. Watch that fight turn to flight when you go for penetration.
                            Originally posted by Raycetpfl
                            Just for future reference dude..... when you are doing it right you don't soil your under-roos when you nail chicks.

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                              #74
                              Originally posted by goodlun View Post
                              Question, do you put that Masters on your resume when job hunting?
                              No because I don't have a resume. I run my own business and have no need for it.

                              Originally posted by Mr. Machette View Post
                              No effing way!

                              Please post links. Not trolling (for once). This I gotta see!
                              Dude, you are not and never have been trolling. Trolling is not a universal catch all for when you're saying dumb shit that has no value that makes people upset. There's a art to trolling where you do things to get people to behave in a certain way while all the while, angry. You make people upset because you're a rapist and because you're a dumbshit. Not because you're a troll, dumbass.

                              Originally posted by itwasntme View Post
                              I thought I understood, I asked for clarification because nobody I have ever met referred to anyone as the "ook ook i gotz degree" crowd or "rock stars". As far as the sanitation route goes, I agree with everyone. Decent wages, benefits, job security. However, if I get a degree would that not be a better option? I could understand sanitation as a temporary means to an end, but it's not like I'm mentally handicapped and that is my only/best option. Any tests I have ever applied myself on throughout school and life I breezed through.



                              Why so angry??




                              If you weren't such a reactionary putz you might have realised that I do not believe a business degree would get me in the door as an electrical engineer. I'll separate my two sentence paragraph into two paragraphs from now on so you can keep up.



                              Thank you for the thoughts. I was already planning to try to find a work study position for whatever field I do get into, how fucking sweet of a deal is that program!
                              I'll be totally serious here for a moment:

                              If I were to interview you for a job not knowing anything about you beforehand, I would not hire you.

                              The way you talk and the way you write, I wouldn't hire you even if you had all the right qualifications. You're clearly not mentally elastic enough to be able to think on your feet. You'd constantly be bugging me asking about this or that. You'd be a liability. You're very unsure of yourself and your late start in life means that you probably fucked about for several years. Meaning you didn't do anything of worth in that time and think that this computer job you're looking for is just another stepping stone in your bag of bad ideas.

                              I wouldn't hire you.

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                                #75
                                Look the simple truth is all of those test and thing just don't mean shit. Trying to figure out what the fuck to do has been a question on peoples minds ever since they really have had the option.
                                The good news is you can change your mind many times.
                                Look work is work, it sucks, even when you do something you "love" it sucks.

                                Your goal is to figure out what is not going to make you put a gun in your mouth. We spend nearly 1/2 our waking hours at work. You just have to make sure it will pay you enough that you have enough money to have 3 times rent in an area you want to live beyond this its all about having the right priorities. When it comes to money management its not how much you make its how much you keep (making more can help with keeping more).

                                Stop looking for a good field and look for the right field for you. You should know what it is you LIKE to do by now.
                                So what is it you like to do?
                                Of the single rapier fight between valiant men, having both skill, he that is the best wrestler, or if neither of them can wrestle, the strongest man most commonly kills the other, or leaves him at his mercy.
                                –George Silver, Paradoxes of Defence

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