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    Originally posted by It is Fake View Post
    One thing to do, which I did, is go to the university and sit down with their Academic Counselor. Not for career advice, but degree progress advising. You find the areas you want to study and get them to show you which community college credits they will accept. I did it for free because they are bored in the middle of the semester.
    Hilariously, my counselor told me, "Oh, dude, don't bother getting your degree if you want to do networking." and then gave me a list of classes they offer for Cisco Certs and Microsoft Certs.

    Originally posted by Mr. Machette View Post
    The advice I gave was niether. Back up your accusation or STFU Cris.


    Actually shit bird, I made a reccomendation from personal experience (some of it quite recent) and included the caveat so itwasntme would at least be aware of a potential pitfall. Which basically blows your "argument" apart.


    Yeah, he'd be having this same conversation with a college counselor who would tell him which credits are transferable and where. They would even counsel him (crazy, I know!) on the best strategy to meet his goals. Can you imagine that?!?!!?


    itwasntme's potential success and fulfillment is fucked up? Only to a hatefull shit bird like you Sirc.

    You know, it says a lot about your own reasoning abilities when you think others incapable of simple deduction, I.E. "This guy said I need to look into transfering credits (if I can), I should probably ask the admissions office about that."

    If this simple conclusion is beyond your comprehension you are nowhere near a normal persons level of thinking. It's proably good that you've found a niche messing up computers for a living. You'd fall appart having to keep up with real humans.
    Yes you did. You said it was a small caveat. It's the biggest fucking lynch pin ever in the whole school thing.

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      Originally posted by Dr. Sleepless View Post
      Hilariously, my counselor told me, "Oh, dude, don't bother getting your degree if you want to do networking." and then gave me a list of classes they offer for Cisco Certs and Microsoft Certs.
      At the JUCO or the University?

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        I work with IT hiring managers, and one of the thing they look for is communication skills. There are people with great looking resumes who are skipped over because during their interview, their com skills were crappy (note: a lot of these are H1 visa candidates from India).

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          Originally posted by It is Fake View Post
          We will disagree. Just stay on top of things.
          I don't get why you disagree with him. It's true. Colleges will move the goal posts suddenly without notice. Recently, my girlfriend was trying to get into a class that she could take now and would count towards her PhD instead of her Masters. Signed up for it, got all the books and then blammo, class got nuked for no real reason and moved to next semester. It's not that big of a deal, she had the extra time and thought she could get one class out of the way and was told she could do it, signed up for it, paid for it and then it disappeared.

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            Originally posted by Dr. Sleepless View Post
            I don't get why you disagree with him. It's true. Colleges will move the goal posts suddenly without notice.
            No, they tell you.

            Recently, my girlfriend was trying to get into a class that she could take now and would count towards her PhD instead of her Masters. Signed up for it, got all the books and then blammo, class got nuked for no real reason and moved to next semester. It's not that big of a deal, she had the extra time and thought she could get one class out of the way and was told she could do it, signed up for it, paid for it and then it disappeared.
            Two different things.

            Class being cancelled, nuked removed, moved etc etc is in a different world than full on catalog changes. That's what I am and was refering to in my earlier post.

            That's why I disagree.

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              Don't most schools base your graduation requirements off of the Catalog when you enrolled so that even when things do change your requirements stay the same? or is this a CA thing?

              Not enroll declare a major.
              Last edited by goodlun; 11/06/2012 2:57pm, . Reason: Not enroll declare a major
              Of the single rapier fight between valiant men, having both skill, he that is the best wrestler, or if neither of them can wrestle, the strongest man most commonly kills the other, or leaves him at his mercy.
              –George Silver, Paradoxes of Defence

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                Originally posted by It is Fake View Post
                No, they tell you.

                Two different things.

                Class being cancelled, nuked removed, moved etc etc is in a different world than full on catalog changes. That's what I am and was refering to in my earlier post.

                That's why I disagree.
                Oh Ok. Gotcha.

                The only time I've ever seen a graduating requirement change, the college made the change and informed students after the fact. Granted it was necessary, it just sucked for the people mid-way through having to take extra classes.

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                  Originally posted by goodlun View Post
                  Don't most schools base your graduation requirements off of the Catalog when you enrolled so that even when things do change your requirements stay the same? or is this a CA thing?

                  Not enroll declare a major.
                  They base it off of total credits and certain requirements. So you could get a degree in something shitty like, Dance, which would only require like 8 classes, but you would still need to take like 40 units of classes to make the credit requirement.

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                    Originally posted by goodlun View Post
                    Don't most schools base your graduation requirements off of the Catalog when you enrolled so that even when things do change your requirements stay the same? or is this a CA thing?

                    Not enroll declare a major.
                    Yes, but if he is going to a JUCO their catalog does not matter to the university. If he goes to a university, which is more expensive, the year he starts is the catalog he'll keep barring dropping out.

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                      Originally posted by goodlun View Post

                      The good old MBA can be a good thing to go out and get from one of them working adult schools like Phoenix or DeVry
                      Okay, stop speaking now.

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                        Originally posted by Rivington View Post
                        Okay, stop speaking now.
                        Context my friend context,
                        When your working at a large corporation such as say QUALCOMM, if your on the trajectory to get a management position the degree does help. Getting a degree at a traditional university while working 40-60 hours a week sucks.
                        Of the single rapier fight between valiant men, having both skill, he that is the best wrestler, or if neither of them can wrestle, the strongest man most commonly kills the other, or leaves him at his mercy.
                        –George Silver, Paradoxes of Defence

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                            Originally posted by goodlun View Post
                            Context my friend context,
                            When your working at a large corporation such as say QUALCOMM, if your on the trajectory to get a management position the degree does help. Getting a degree at a traditional university while working 40-60 hours a week sucks.
                            There are plenty of legit evening MBAs and that sort of thing run by real third-tier schools. (Babson in MA immediately comes to mind, or UC Davis out here, or Northwestern/Kellogg in IL.)

                            The for-profits—especially the online for profits—are a nightmare of abject stupidity, and most HR folks have slowly but surely begun to realize this.

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                              Crap my "do networking" posts were supposed to be in here, not in the gong sau thread...

                              College educated....and I can't even post in the right place.

                              Don't put me in charge of anything important.

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                                Originally posted by Rivington View Post
                                There are plenty of legit evening MBAs and that sort of thing run by real third-tier schools. (Babson in MA immediately comes to mind, or UC Davis out here, or Northwestern/Kellogg in IL.)

                                The for-profits—especially the online for profits—are a nightmare of abject stupidity, and most HR folks have slowly but surely begun to realize this.
                                I will be honest its been about 7 years since I have been in the fortune 500 world. So my experiences can also be really dated. Also I was at tech companies mostly and they do tend to run a little differently.
                                Of the single rapier fight between valiant men, having both skill, he that is the best wrestler, or if neither of them can wrestle, the strongest man most commonly kills the other, or leaves him at his mercy.
                                –George Silver, Paradoxes of Defence

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