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    80 year old cuffed for tearing down Obama is Hitler posters.


    I'm not quite sure the LaRouche movement's full scope of national operations, so you may not know about them. They are active in Boston. One of their more endearing actions is to go around with Obama w/ Hitler mustache posters (they did the same with Bush jr.).

    They emphasize a physical economy (vs. a speculative one) and returning to the gold standard...and from there they go crazypants. Everything in Lyndon LaRouche's worldview, boils down to the British Empire vs. the US of A.

    80 year old Nancy Lack of Connecticut saw some, and ripped them down. A worker with LaRouchePAC followed her, and she ended up being arrested. She is now charged with 6th degree Larceny, and breach-of-peace.
    http://now.msn.com/nancy-lack-an-80-...itler-mustache
    "My generation went through the Second World War, and Nazism is about the worst there can be," Lack told NBC Connecticut. "I just got very angry that they would do that to Obama’s image.
    Freedom of speech vs. old lady.

    I've seen them downtown with the Obama Hitler posters only twice. When Bush was in office, they literally xmas carol style sang anti Bush songs, and were extremely active. Less so now.

    I've had a dozen or more in-depth conversations with some of their followers, and generally they appear well informed, unless you yourself are well informed. Too much wide eyes (like the Sci3ntologists) and trying to school everyone. I've read a great deal of their literature, and it's a mixed bag. You have to be willing to search laterally to fact check them, or it's a giant mindfuck.

    The lady said she knew she could get in trouble but did it anyway, as she felt it was offensive. I agree that slinging Hitler is offensive, even in this political climate.

    Anyway, thoughts anyone, on the case, or the LaRouchies? I'd be shocked if she got anything, if it's even somehow not dropped.
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    I'm confused, she got in trouble for tearing down bill posts?
    GET A RED BELT OR DIE TRYIN'.
    Originally posted by Devil
    I think Battlefields and I had a spirited discussion once about who was the biggest narcissist. We both wanted the title but at the end of the day I had to concede defeat. Can't win 'em all.
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      #3
      Originally posted by battlefields View Post
      I'm confused, she got in trouble for tearing down bill posts?
      She got in trouble for tearing down posters, that are of President Obama's face, with a Hitler mustache.
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        #4
        I still don't get it. How is tearing down posters illegal?

        To shed light on my confusion, it is illegal by many council by laws to put posters up. Are they official political party posters and therefore protected under some sort of legislation?
        GET A RED BELT OR DIE TRYIN'.
        Originally posted by Devil
        I think Battlefields and I had a spirited discussion once about who was the biggest narcissist. We both wanted the title but at the end of the day I had to concede defeat. Can't win 'em all.
        Originally posted by BackFistMonkey
        I <3 Battlefields...

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          #5
          Originally posted by battlefields View Post
          I still don't get it. How is tearing down posters illegal?

          To shed light on my confusion, it is illegal by many council by laws to put posters up. Are they official political party posters and therefore protected under some sort of legislation?
          Other people's property and stuff
          Of the single rapier fight between valiant men, having both skill, he that is the best wrestler, or if neither of them can wrestle, the strongest man most commonly kills the other, or leaves him at his mercy.
          –George Silver, Paradoxes of Defence

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            #6
            'Merica is weird.
            GET A RED BELT OR DIE TRYIN'.
            Originally posted by Devil
            I think Battlefields and I had a spirited discussion once about who was the biggest narcissist. We both wanted the title but at the end of the day I had to concede defeat. Can't win 'em all.
            Originally posted by BackFistMonkey
            I <3 Battlefields...

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              #7
              To put in context 6th degree Larceny is about the equivalent of shop lifting.
              Of the single rapier fight between valiant men, having both skill, he that is the best wrestler, or if neither of them can wrestle, the strongest man most commonly kills the other, or leaves him at his mercy.
              –George Silver, Paradoxes of Defence

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                #8
                In germany (and middle-europe in general), the LaRouche movement consists of a few hundred people who engage in antisemitism (jewish conspiracy ruling the world), economic nationalism, the occasional holocaust-denial and the making of campaign-videos which are full of spelling-errors (german speaking people may look here for one, http://www.clipfish.de/video/926449/...e-wahlwerbung/

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                  #9
                  Nope when we say freedom of speech over here we mean it. While we do have laws about Slander, Defamation and Libel in general are given huge leeway when it comes to political figures.
                  Of the single rapier fight between valiant men, having both skill, he that is the best wrestler, or if neither of them can wrestle, the strongest man most commonly kills the other, or leaves him at his mercy.
                  –George Silver, Paradoxes of Defence

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by battlefields View Post
                    'Merica is weird.
                    America is pretty weird. I live here and I never knew that doing something to posters was against the law. If you purposely put random crap out in the public, people should be able to do what they want with it (unless it was indeed some kind of official protected poster location that you had to pay for or something like that)

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by goodlun View Post
                      Nope when we say freedom of speech over here we mean it. While we do have laws about Slander, Defamation and Libel in general are given huge leeway when it comes to political figures.
                      Last edited by nils; 10/19/2012 4:54am, .

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                        #12
                        Some people feel that freedom of speech is an excuse to be a raging asshole.

                        That lady should run for president. I'd vote for her.
                        Shut the hell up and train.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Disastorm View Post
                          I live here and I never knew that doing something to posters was against the law.
                          Someone (individual or organization) paid to have the posters printed; this makes the posters personal property. Just because the personal property is posted or displayed in a public place, you or I do not have a right to damage or remove it.

                          If I damage someone's personal property (criminal damage to property, injuring or destroying property, malicious destruction), that is against the law. If I remove someone's personal property (theft, larceny, stealing), that is against the law. If while removing or damaging someone's personal property, I cause them distress or alarm (disorderly conduct, breach of peace), that is also against the law.

                          I thought I spelled it wrong, but as I said I'm a mechanic not an English professor.

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by nils View Post
                            I always got the impression that belittlement of the symbols (e.g. desecration of the flag, students getting kicked out of school for wearing t-shirts with critical slogans) and institutions of the state were not protected by freedom of speech and hence the president, as the foremost representative of the state, would be protected from such kind of insults (=insults without any real political connotation).
                            In a school environment, the justification for quashing freedom of expression is disorder. School administrators claim that political or obscene shirts cause a distraction and are detrimental to learning.
                            The only thing that the President is protected from, is threats. He is a public figure and subject to unrestricted criticism in almost any form.
                            Originally posted by nils View Post
                            Why even use Hitler-posters? I thought the common narrative by his political opponents were that he was a socialist or a communist? Why not at least be consequent and produce Obama-Stalin-Posters?
                            I was thinking the same thing. I wonder how this would have gone over in Russia; Putin probably would not have been amused. Many people protest blindly; they have no idea what defines socialism, yet label people socialists.

                            I thought I spelled it wrong, but as I said I'm a mechanic not an English professor.

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by slamdunc View Post
                              Many people protest blindly; they have no idea what defines socialism, yet label people socialists.
                              True that. "Socialist" nowadays seems to be just another term for "evil-guy". Seems like the McCarthyan cold-war-brainwash is still in effect.

                              I wonder how this would have gone over in Russia; Putin probably would not have been amused.
                              Something along these lines, probably: Click image for larger version

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                              Last edited by nils; 10/19/2012 7:22am, .

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