What are you listening to?

[W. Rabbit]

For example. Much less money and a simpler sound... making better music with stuff you can fit in a single garage on a weeknight jam sesion.

I fucking hate this song.

I also read that entire Genesis rant in my head in the voice of Patrick Bateman, so thanks for the nightmares.

I'm not really a Genesis fan per se (a couple songs, Land of Confusion being a standout Cold War anthem are pretty good), more of a Mike Rutherford fan (not like MATM but also his production work as you can see in the short-lived but awesome Red 7).

Your posts aren't showing up publicly, unless I log in, which apparently I can only do by clicking Recent Threads, which lets me log in enough to quote and reply (but looks like my replies aren't public either).

Where is R2 when you need him?

My favorite Collins' song and video (because drums and ninjas go together)

You want simple, 3 chord 80's on a small stage with nothing but a couple Marshall stacks, guitars, and hairspray. Mission accomplished.

[W. Rabbit]

Seems like there is a login problem going on, I keep getting logged out and can't navigate the forums. Only able to Quote a "New BS" post so here it is.

Someone tell Sub, looks like only a few people are logged on so doubt it's just me.

[Dung Beatles]

For example. Much less money and a simpler sound... making better music with stuff you can fit in a single garage on a weeknight jam sesion.

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See, the 80s oversaw the last stand of real music in the popular genre. Now it's just genre specific nerds who barely ever make ends meet and studios who mass market garbage. The huge industrial evolution the music industry oversaw wasn't in distribution really, it was in cost benefit analysis that reduced music to catchy garbage.

Synthesizers bother me because they are used to take shortcuts in the studio. Instead of playing a half dozen musicians for some supporting musical track and a sound engineer they just pay the sound engineer and used MIDI devices that still run on 1.0

Don't get me wrong, I've been really enjoying the organ synth stuff lately but it's there is no substitute for real horns and strings. You seem like you might enjoy a drum pad. I don't really dig it much but there are studio quality ones that come with keyboards and PC hookups for almost nothing these days.

My position on Genesis is why should I listen to obscure Genesis tracks full of synth pop BS when I can listen to masters of experimental intentionally synthetic sound like Pink Floyd.

To me Genesis is one of those bands who wasted their potential and made elevator music when they could have made history. I think maybe Phil Collins had a severe lack of creativity that spoiled an otherwise great musical mind.

[W. Rabbit]

A-B-A-C-A-B

It would probably sound better without the studio synth, a real brass section and a singer that wasn't just mailing it in because he could.

He's a real musician it's just that I think he half assed a lot of his work and because it was the 80s and he had a few other hit singles he got away with it.

The easter egg is this fun fact: ABACAB is not actually chord the sequence of the song, but rough draft composition of sections (A - verse, B - chorus, C - bridge). The song eventually uses "Accaabbaac" as its sequence, per Mike Rutherford himself.

I only know this because I stay up late reading encyclopedias. But the real fun is getting into arguments with Genesis fans over this, they will swear to you their cousin's brother's best friend who is a guitar shredder TOTALLY confirmed the song uses just three basic chords. A Genesis song?? THREE CHORDS????

On that note, this is my favorite song produced by a former Genesis member, also the end credit theme to my favorite movie, Manhunter.

[Dung Beatles]

A-B-A-C-A-B

It would probably sound better without the studio synth, a real brass section and a singer that wasn't just mailing it in because he could.

He's a real musician it's just that I think he half assed a lot of his work and because it was the 80s and he had a few other hit singles he got away with it.

[TNMP]

[W. Rabbit]

Do you like music, Dung? This song is fun to disassemble, especially if you get the Easter egg in the title.

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LOL, "The Fighting Quaker". Thank goodness not the only one.

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