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KFighter
9/13/2010 12:48pm,
A new MMA "dojo" has opened up a couple towns over. I've found them on the web, and some hings are not sitting quite right. Now I know not everyone is great with websites, but there's somethings that I have to point out.

http://www.theuniversityofmartialarts.com/index.html

They don't teach any specific art. They teach grappling "arts" and striking "arts". This could be a bad thing or a good thing depending on who is teaching.

But then there are no mention of any instructors.

Next is their videos. Now I'm not grappling expert, just a lowly BJJ blue belt and MMA fighter, but their videos don't look the norm especially when it comes to all their ground stuff. But that could be just cause I'm use to traditional BJJ.

I've tried contacting them a few times, but nothing.That's okay though, I'm aware that people are busy.

What are your thoughts on this? Especially their videos?

helmutlvx
9/13/2010 1:04pm,
Post or link to the videos.

Also, how far of a drive is it? Maybe you ought to go check them out?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGbXXXdUahs&feature=player_embedded#!

Is it just me or does the guy do seoi nage 6 or 7 times?

KFighter
9/13/2010 1:10pm,
Their videos is on their website and their youtube channel. While I can't commentate on their striking, their grappling just looks..."odd" to me. But they're teaching "grappling arts" and not BJJ so maybe I am incorrect.

helmutlvx
9/13/2010 1:46pm,
Well, I definitely saw seoi nage and a scissor takedown. I also got the same feeling with it looking "not quite right".

I'm gonna err on the side of caution and defer judgement on such things to real grapplers.

KFighter
9/16/2010 3:08pm,
I got a message from him. He said he has experience in Japanese Jujitsu and BJJ, as well as Judo and Sambo.

He gave me the name of a pro boxer and said that said boxer teaches there, but when I looked the boxer up, nothing came up.

DarkPhoenix
9/16/2010 3:11pm,
What is teh boxer's name?

CoffeeFan
9/16/2010 3:46pm,
A lot of those techniques look like a mix of SAMBO and Catch techniques. I did find it odd choice that they demonstrated a hip throw with double underhooks instead of some of the more traditional clinches, but I wouldn't say it's bullshido. Can anyone drive over and roll with them?

dwkfym
9/16/2010 4:46pm,
sounds like JKD influenced?

KFighter
9/17/2010 9:56am,
What is teh boxer's name?

The boxers name is Michael Disimone. I checked on Boxrec, and didn't find anything.

KFighter
9/17/2010 9:56am,
sounds like JKD influenced?

That's what I thought, but he says he has experience in Japanese Jujitsu, BJJ, Sambo, Judo, and JKD.

DarkPhoenix
9/17/2010 10:06am,
I see a Mikey Desimone in the Chicago area who is involved in boxing, but I can't tell if he is a fighter or just a promoter.

http://www.thesweetscience.com/boxing-article/2360/boxing-news-friday-night-fights-chicago/

He is mentioned at the bottom of the article.

KFighter
9/17/2010 10:08am,
Good find DarkPhoenix! Still searching but can't find any record.

DarkPhoenix
9/17/2010 10:19am,
Good find DarkPhoenix! Still searching but can't find any record.


I looked on BoxRec with all possible spellings of his name, but came up just as you did, empty handed.

IYRDC
9/17/2010 3:56pm,
That's what I thought, but he says he has experience in Japanese Jujitsu, BJJ, Sambo, Judo, and JKD.

I highly doubt he has any "Japanese Jujitsu" experience. Koryu "Jujutsu" is very rare outside of Japan. There is some Takenouchi-ryu jujutsu in Hawaii, which Wayne Muromoto teaches, Hontai Yoshin Ryu in California and Kentucky, and some Daito Ryu Aikijujutsu at various spots around the country. There may be a few others.

As a side note, the term "Jujitsu" is incorrect, and it makes me highly suspicious whenever anyone spells it like that. The only correct usage of -jitsu is with respect to BJJ. You will not find any traditional school that spells jujutsu with an i. In fact, there is no "i" sound in Japanese like in the word "in", the letter "I" is pronounced with a long e sound, so the word Jujitsu would actually be pronounced jujEEtsu. Jujutsu is spelled with the same kanji as is used in kenjutsu, sojutsu, ninjutsu, battojutsu, kasarigamajutsu, etc.

Dsimon3387
9/17/2010 8:16pm,
My two cents:

the guy is very good from the vids at least it would appear. People forget that there are traditional Ju set ups that are a little different. And there is nothing suspect about saying you study Japanese jU (or Jiu) Jutsu (or jitsu) to distinguish yourself from other approaches. The Booj, Aiki stuff, Hakko Ryu among others can be considered such.

I do some similar things in my class, some of his submissions are less committed and less locked up, I notice that with some of his chokes and I do some similar stuff. The reason for this is that submissions in traditional Ju Jutsu are... well they are usually from my experience standing, and they usually are designed to go into either a weapons pull, or a breaking technique... so they are not an end to themselves.

What that means is that someone can work with them and get different setups and sequences.... the best way to test em is to do em and ask the other guy to fight as though you are raping his family... you will find out quick if it works or not ha ha.

I like this guy from a cursory glance at his vids I see where he cheats on his leverage for his chokes something I like to do hahaha.