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Ki-ai
2/11/2010 3:49pm,
So...why is this karate chop (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1eyqli2mbGc) such an unusual strike in MMA?

BSDaemon
2/11/2010 4:01pm,
Damage your brain... Safely!

Don't get me started on that so-called-expert's use of the word "equivalent".

Marc Spector
2/11/2010 4:08pm,
That was bogus as hell. And besides that, striking someone hard in the neck (especially hard enough to KO them) can seriously hurt them, thus making it a stupid thing to demo, and even dumber to volunteer for.

Mr. Machette
2/11/2010 4:19pm,
That was bogus as hell. And besides that, striking someone hard in the neck (especially hard enough to KO them) can seriously hurt them, thus making it a stupid thing to demo, and even dumber to volunteer for.
Well, it is a school that seems to specialize in the deadly art of the purple nurple after all...

feral00
2/11/2010 4:23pm,
I have actually been greyed out by this strike while showing a lower belt a technique which involves this strike, it doesn't take much pressure. The reason this is not done in MMA is because strikes to the neck are illegal, and for good reason.

Ming Loyalist
2/11/2010 5:00pm,
The reason this is not done in MMA is because strikes to the neck are illegal, and for good reason.

*WRONG*

strikes to the sides of the neck are legal and have been used in MMA. only one example would be crocop who has kicked someone there and KO'd them.

why doesn't it get used in MMA more often? maybe because unlike in hapkido or karate MMA fighters keep their hands up!

foxd
2/11/2010 5:06pm,
Instead of having the specialist and expert there and ****, why doesn't the girl who works for the show just volunteer to take the chop?

Ki-ai
2/11/2010 5:21pm,
Instead of having the specialist and expert there and ****, why doesn't the girl who works for the show just volunteer to take the chop?

This was my first question aswell.

Especially since she expressed doubts that the students didn't voluntarily collapse.



I got this vid sent to me after expressing...doubts in a facebook group, wether or not this is possible.

Permalost
2/11/2010 5:27pm,
I was pretty surprised that this wasn't that played out pimp vs karate master video.

feral00
2/11/2010 5:47pm,
Ok Ming loyalist, you got me. I misinterpreted the UFC rule 11 to include the entire neck, but it only counts for the throat.
11. Throat strikes of any kind, including, without limitation, grabbing the trachea.
http://www.ufc.com/index.cfm?fa=LearnUFC.Rules
also I may need to claify this, I wasnt sparring with the guy I was just showing him the area on the neck. I also keep my hands up when I fight, an advantage of having a teacher who used to be an amateur boxer. This is contrary to many hapkido fighters I will admit.

KO'd N DOA
2/11/2010 5:50pm,
That Grandmaster has some great Kappo skills. Wonder if him and the doc talked shop. Also interesting to know, to what level do people go during Shime waza. 67 is the target.

Moar Science.

Conde Koma
2/11/2010 6:04pm,
...and they couldn't bring in someone who wasn't a student? Another dumb test trying to sell "ancient esoteric and mystic (tm)" fighting techniques.

feral00
2/11/2010 6:11pm,
I just realized the full irony that these techniques are supposed to be ancient secrets, but are being brodcast on tv. If these were really secret, then why does every MA either knows the technique, or knows its bs.

Lindz
2/11/2010 6:30pm,
"Seeing is believing" no it isn't
"Feeling is believing" so karate chop the girl then.

Barabbas
2/11/2010 6:49pm,
Quite possible to be legit. He strikes him in punctum nervosum coli (do not know if there is term in english), where n. occipitalis minor, n. auricularis magnus, n. transversus coli and nn. supraclaviculares become superficial. I believe that punch striking that point can throw one unconscious (never tried, but theoretically it stands).

Mtripp
2/11/2010 6:52pm,
Karate Master vs Pimp is a VERY good video to show how well the blow works.

It is much easier and more effective, to apply it by slapping the side of the neck. Ask anyone at my last clinic about that.

However, nothing magic about it, and the "reasons" given for why it works are wrong.