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1/25/2010 1:02pm,
YouTube- Bartitsu Seminar 2009.wmv (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6d9IdnqxpbU)

Clips from a recent seminar by German Bartitsu instructor Alex Kiermayer, including basic Vigny cane techniques, 19th century fisticuffs, low savate kicks and jiujitsu.

Confused Artist
1/25/2010 6:23pm,
It's great to see more videos on youtube about Bartitsu.

The seminar looks like an introductory lesson in Bartitsu and all the people seem to be having a good time.

I found the bit at the end quite funny though I'm glad there training with aliveness.

1/25/2010 8:56pm,
Virtually all Bartitsu seminars are introductory, because the "revival" itself is only a few years old. Hopefully, as more people start to practice the art(s), we'll start to see more specialized and advanced-level seminars as well.

1/25/2010 10:07pm,
That looks like great fun. I can't wait until there's an event close to me.

They're all gonna get chinned with that boxing, though!

1/25/2010 10:18pm,
That looks like great fun. I can't wait until there's an event close to me.

They're all gonna get chinned with that boxing, though!

There are quite a few seminars coming up over the next couple of months - http://www.bartitsu.org/index.php/bartitsu-today/

1/25/2010 10:31pm,
They're all gonna get chinned with that boxing, though!

Here's Alex doing some light fisticuffs sparring with a beginning-level student. Obviously, the aim is to accurately reconstruct 19th century pugilism, including stances and guard positions, use of the "chopper" (backfist/hammerfist punches) and throwing from the clinch.

YouTube- Lungenfuchser-Treffen 2009 Pugilism Marcus und Alex (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4ifkhPRBV4)

1/30/2010 3:36pm,
Man those blocks look a lot like the blocks I learned in karate. Especially the low block and the high block. That's really interesting especially since the boxing is based off bare knuckle right? The style of karate I did was bare-knuckle and I wonder if that changes the block at all.
Nice to see that they also actually spar, although it would be really nice to two people who were very skilled in this style fighting.

1/30/2010 4:06pm,
Yes; even though gloves were standard (under the Marquis of Queensberry rules) by the time Barton-Wright was developing Bartitsu, the boxing style itself was still largely based on the older bare-knuckle methods. The most significant difference re. parrying is that without the protection of gloves, your hands themselves can become targets or can be accidentally damaged, so most of the parries are forearm deflections.

One of the biggest general style differences, though, is that old-school pugilism was more about standing off and throwing bombs; the complex infighting game of the modern sport wasn't really there, because boxers could legally clinch and throw when they got in close.

1/31/2010 4:46pm,
This is really interesting stuff. Reminds me of this guy a little bit.

YouTube- Lyoto Machida - Karate 3 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7S1efFkHeRo&feature=related)

Totally different style of karate then the one I practiced which was a kyokushin offshoot and really used modern boxing punches, although as I said before a lot of the parries were similar.

Do you know how the hands themselves could become targets? We did some things like tuck our thumbs and there was a lot of emphasis on actually making the fist and so on, which really helped me when I started boxing.