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bewotamyfwiend
12/04/2009 10:03am,
Bio: http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/9361/tomkier2jo5.png Thomas Kier has trained for over 14 years in SAYOC KALI, a blade fighting art from the Philippines in which and he holds the rank of Tuhon (Master Instructor) under Tuhon Christopher Castaneda SAYOC. He has a senior instructor ranking in Kun Lun Pai Silat under Grandmaster Willem DE Thouars. He studied boxing under former IBF middleweight champion Robert "Bam-Bam" Hines. He is the cofounder of American Combat Grappling, which evolved from a 28 year grappling background that included over 1000 Folkstyle, Freestyle and Greco-Roman wrestling and Ju-Jitsu matches and the analysis of 10 years of bouncing in the most dangerous bars he could find as well as numerous no-holds-barred matches. Mr. Kier also has competitive shooting experience with handgun and shotgun and currently participates in 1000 yard shooting competitions in which he has achieved world-class scores. Mr. Kier is the director of SAYOC Tactical and Cofounder of Defensive Systems Institute and has instructed members of military special operations groups including Navy SEALs and law enforcement elite tactical response officers and defensive instructors. He has also developed training for private security personnel for several major corporations. In addition, He has been brought on as a consultant to the U.S. Naval Academy Defensive Tactics Program and was recently invited to act in an advisory capacity and develop programs for the United States Federal Air Marshals. source: http://www.tacticalawareness.com/bios.htm This guys comes straight out of a comic book "I have in my many years of fighting in real life, in bars bouncing and on the street with no rules. And a conservative number would be in the 500 fights range. I have rarely fought anyone in worse shape than myself, and I have never lost one of these fights." source: http://physicalstrategies.blogspot.com/2007/06/tuhon-tom-kier-of-sayoc-kali-on.html See this amazing fighter in action: YouTube- sayoc demo vid (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94iXkVUue8A)

catfishaggie
12/04/2009 10:15am,
[quote=bewotamyfwiend;2272449]Bio: http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/9361/tomkier2jo5.png /quote]

Is it Christmas already? Do we really get another Phil to have fun with? :phil2:

atom
12/04/2009 10:22am,
WHy is that smiley pissing himself and chuckling while holding a bayonetted pistol?

AMF
12/04/2009 10:26am,
Looks that way.

*sigh*

We literally can't throw a fucking stick these days without hitting some cocksucker that
instructed members of military special operations groups including Navy SEALs and law enforcement elite tactical response officers and defensive instructors. He has also developed training for private security personnel for several major corporations.

Geezus.

catfishaggie
12/04/2009 10:30am,
WHy is that smiley pissing himself and chuckling while holding a bayonetted pistol?

Cause it is Phil and that is what he does.

http://encyclopediadramatica.com/Phil_elmore

waxeater
12/04/2009 11:36am,
Why would you need to knee someone in the face after slitting their throat?

Rivington
12/04/2009 11:44am,
I have rarely fought anyone in worse shape than myself

Ah, the kernel of truth.

MMAMickey
12/04/2009 12:08pm,
30 seconds of fighting followed 3 hours of wheezing and sweating

Mr. Machette
12/04/2009 12:47pm,
Why would you need to knee someone in the face after slitting their throat?
A lot of FMA blade work has that kind of overkill in it. I.E., a series of movements where you disable more than one limb, slash the throat, and bust something up for good measure.

It has something to do with people being able to continue fighting for a few seconds even if they are bleeding out. If your enemy has even intermediate skills with a knife, a few seconds is more than enough time for the dying man to mortally wound you. The overkill ensures that they will be imobile, or at least unable to pursue you before they bleed out.

Brutal, yes. But this is a style for warfare. Nasty, blade against blade, more than two people in the fight warfare. The kind where you don;t want your enemy to have chance of getting up after you put them down.

This guy however, is fucking sloppy, and apparently a pathological liar. I have never seen a "tuhon" that slow, uncoordinated, or inaccurate. In fact, I've seen first year students at my school do this better. He does the sets, but he does them badly.

Also, 500 fights and he's never lost? So, in 500 fights, he's never once learned the most important lesson of fighting. (That sooner or later you will get your ass kicked badly...) I gotta call Bullshit on that.

Either Sayoc has some really poor quality control, or this guy is completely miss representing them. I'm thinking it's the latter.

JMO.

CoffeeFan
12/04/2009 12:47pm,
I should start counting every sparring match as some sort of street fight record.

Tom Kagan
12/04/2009 12:58pm,
You'd think after the first hundred or so street fights, a person would finally figure out how to avoid them in the future.

MMAMickey
12/04/2009 1:24pm,
It's a shame I never get to see any good videos of knife fighting these days, i was on the verge of wanting to learn..

bewotamyfwiend
12/04/2009 2:07pm,
Either Sayoc has some really poor quality control, or this guy is completely miss representing them. I'm thinking it's the latter. This sentence is sort of confusing me, but I would like to point out that Tom Kier is considered one of the "top dogs" in Sayoc Kali, if not THE top dog after Chris Sayoc himself. He teaches a lot at their "sama sama" events and other seminars Anyway, here you can see Chris Sayoc himself teaching at seminars. He doesn't look any less sloppy than Tom Kier to me and is apparently teaching his students how to buy a lot of sayoc equipment and otherwise weird stuff. YouTube- Sayoc 2002 Seminar (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1pp1YH8NDo) YouTube- Sayoc Kali 2006 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dd9pqir3yoU)

bewotamyfwiend
12/04/2009 2:18pm,
It's a shame I never get to see any good videos of knife fighting these days, i was on the verge of wanting to learn.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGkJ5ZvhhBc This guy is on to something

mdf2
12/04/2009 2:22pm,
Hmm, with all he's accomplished in his life -- was he at Woodstock, too?

Also, I wonder if he keeps a scrupulous diary of all his streetfights, as he so clearly knows he's had over 500 and never lost.

Monday XX of XXXX -- Streetfight. I won, clearly, or else I wouldn't be writing this.

Tuesday. Pick up laundry. Streetfight. Go to deli for lunch, on the way back get accosted by mugger: Streetfight. Try to sleep. Get bored, decide to go out. Get into a streetfight.

Wednesday. Go out to get my paper. Streetfight.

Cannon_6
12/04/2009 2:33pm,
A lot of FMA blade work has that kind of overkill in it. I.E., a series of movements where you disable more than one limb, slash the throat, and bust something up for good measure.
I see what you mean. He stabbed that poor guy in the ass AND the balls.