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devilboy7778
11/18/2009 6:21pm,
So while on delicious.com
I came across this interesting thingy
http://www.stopstretching.com/martialarts.html

It talks about how stretching is actually bad for you?
https://www.createspace.com/212483
here's a video with some insight on "what really to do"
Anyone ever get this video? I don't think i have enough knowledge of this new sort of technique to actually say anything about it so what do you guys think?

Cheers:eusa_danc

SaintHamish
11/18/2009 8:17pm,
Do you still believe that you can lose 25 pounds of fat in under a week without exercising? Or that the only true way to get rock hard abs is the Ab Rocker Pro 1000?

Infomercials must love you.....

devilboy7778
11/18/2009 9:20pm,
You can't say that they aren't fun to watch:love5:

SCInferno
11/18/2009 9:31pm,
It's a JAR! It holds stuff...it really does!

shelbydeth
11/18/2009 9:47pm,
Devilboy, would you be interested in purchasing some volcano insurance by chance?

devilboy7778
11/18/2009 11:04pm,
No i have some already so i mean Im set with that, you want a back massage?

shelbydeth
11/19/2009 12:12am,
Haha, your alright Devilboy. Welcome to Bullshido.

Coach Josh
11/19/2009 9:18am,
Actually there is some truth to this. Many people do not know how to stretch properly or even know why they are stretching. There are many takes on this but I will say what I have experienced and researched on my own. I am not a doctor or medically qualified trainer so much of what I know is from reading articles and looking for the best way to train my fighters.

Cold stretching is the worst thing that you can do. Coming in sitting down and beginning stretching is very bad.

Stretching to the point of PAIN is also not good. Stretching to the point of a slight discomfort is OK.

Warm up BEFORE stretching. Do a 10 min jog or a 10 min movement routine. I have my students run then do some break falls and shrimps. Then we move on to stretching. Getting the blood pumping helps.

Try to incorporate as many moving stretches as possible. Do things that require some action in the stretching not just static bend over and touch your toes. The LSU football team has a nice warm up routine that they use as a stretch as well.

The difference with martial arts and many other sports is that you do need a greater range of motion. As with any thing that you do it is imperative that you find a balance to achieve the maximum benefit.

Res Judicata
11/19/2009 9:34am,
When most people think "stretching" they think static stretching -- sit down cold and start stretching. That's mostly bad, as Josh said. It's better to think about mobility. Warm up with mobility exercises (dynamic stretching) and a little static stretching. I do the bulk of my static stretching after my work out when everything is already warmed up and loose. The foam roller is important, too.

If you want product recommendations, check out the Magnificent Mobility and Inside out DVDs here: http://robertsontrainingsystems.com/products/ (I don't have the others, but Robertson, Cressey and Hartman are generally awesome).

devilboy7778
11/20/2009 12:53am,
Shelbydeth thanks for the welcome Im glad to be a part of the bullshido community.

I guess I did figure this was kinda a scam, but as Josh said there is some truth to it. But is there any other truths such as when they say that passive stretching is bad (passive stretching apparently is moving your joint or limb beyond an active range of motion). or that stretching will cause joint deformation?

AND IF ITS A SCAM WHAT ABOUT THOSE TESTIMONIALS?!?!?! THEY HAVE TO BE REAL:rolleyes:

SaintHamish
11/20/2009 1:03am,
Theres generally always a level of truth behind most things, this is no different...I think its safe to say there are many different ideas and teachings that we have all been shown and shared to others....

I personally believe in dynamic forms of stretching and certainly no static stretching....

SaintHamish
11/20/2009 1:05am,
Different variations, but same concept:

YouTube- Dynamic Stretching (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DkCZym9CT54)

Res Judicata
11/20/2009 12:12pm,
Those are money. Do those! Ignore the fact that you look like a jackass at the gym. And do these:

YouTube- Cressey Performance Foam Roller Series (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8caF1Keg2XU)

shelbydeth
11/20/2009 3:36pm,
I had forgotten about cold stretching. I warm up easily so I just skip ropes or shadowbox for a little while prior. I do see lots of people cold stretch though, I guess I should correct them.