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AnAccountant
11/15/2009 7:25am,
Hi All,

I have now been fully convinced that Wing Chun isn't an effective fighting art. I have 2 other options available to me, Krav Maga and Escrima. Are these MA effective fightng arts for self defense?

Regards

AA

Rene "Zendokan" Gysenbergs
11/15/2009 8:05am,
Kali-Ecrima-Arnes : Yes, if you train it "Dog Brothers" style (Google/Youtube Dog Brothers)

Krav Maga: No, unless you are a soldier in the Israely Army.

If you want realistic hand-to-hand combat: Judo + Muay Thai.

Please, do not start any _ing _un threads again, thank you.

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Evil Solvalou
11/15/2009 8:55am,
Why don't you tell us where you are and maybe provide a list of schools in your area, including their websites if available.

There's really nothing anyone can tell you without knowing about the instructor, his ability to teach, the school, their lineage, the training methods etc.

Diesel_tke
11/15/2009 9:00am,
Krav Maga is better than nothing. But it really depends on where you are training. Post a link. If the teacher got one of those seminar certificates, then spend your money on a heavy bag.

AnAccountant
11/15/2009 12:20pm,
http://www.institute-kravmaga.co.uk/

Hi all,

Attached is the Krav Maga that is near me. I live in NW London.

AA

AnAccountant
11/15/2009 12:23pm,
Hi Zendokan,

I apologise for my ignorance. But can you tell what ""any _ing _un threads"" are and why I can't post them again?

Regards

AA

Evil Solvalou
11/15/2009 9:33pm,
I live in NW London.

Boxing Clubs London Full List (http://www.boxing-forum.co.uk/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?t=1044)

There you go, no need to thank me, it's what I do.

PitilessPewee
11/16/2009 1:56am,
There is a Judo club in London called the Willesden Judo Club Website: http://www.willesdenjudo.com/

They have an olympic team and they seem to compete alot. Also its 4 pounds a day so that doesn't seem to bad. Try typing Judo London England in google there are more results.

PitilessPewee
11/16/2009 1:59am,
Hi Zendokan,

I apologise for my ignorance. But can you tell what ""any _ing _un threads"" are and why I can't post them again?

Regards

AA

I think by "_ing _un" he means Wing Chun. Probably due to the amount of is wing chun effective threads. It did say something like not to post those kinds of threads in the sticky in the newbie section. So sounds like these topics are best avoided.

Rene "Zendokan" Gysenbergs
11/16/2009 6:11am,
_ing _un stands for Wing Chun, Wing Tsun, Wing Tchun, Ving Chun, Ving Tsun, Ving Tchun and another of dozends of flavours of the Chun.

There about 500 threads here about it's effectiveness (not), lineage wars and aerodynamic principles.

You live in London, go look for a Judo and Muay Thai school.
Both combined will be cheaper than Krav Maga, you learn the skills to fight and both can be used as sport (good for your condition if you are an accountant) and as self-defense (tosh someone on his head into the asfalt = game over, you have scored a flawless victory) without modyfieng the techniques.
Also combining two empty hand schools will give you enough training time a week to become proficient in Martial arts.

Krav Maga has a mystical aura around it, but mystical doesn't mean effective. (90% of the KM outside of Israel isn't).

bazzn
11/17/2009 6:23am,
_ing _un stands for Wing Chun, Wing Tsun, Wing Tchun, Ving Chun, Ving Tsun, Ving Tchun and another of dozends of flavours of the Chun.
Thanks for clearing that up... I was going to ask the same question.

honesty
11/17/2009 7:17am,
There are some very good schools in London, all depending on where you can get to, and where you are currently located.

If your interested in BJJ have a look at Slideyfoots map of the UK for clubs in London: http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?hl=en&ie=UTF8&msa=0&msid=106921815618023577873.0004468257fd1a5350e5b&ll=54.046489,-2.307129&spn=7.745734,9.338379&z=6&source=embed

You will also find a number of these clubs teach other arts.

There's a lot of good judo clubs in London as well, not least is the Budokwai - http://www.budokwai.co.uk/ - the oldest japanese martial arts club in Europe.

I think someone has already posted a link for boxing in London.

Carlos13th
11/18/2009 10:33pm,
Ive trained with one of the guys from the krav maga place you put up as hes come down during seminars and gradings before and he is a very good instructer. Thing is with its lack of sparring krav maga while the techniques are good may not be the best way to become a good fighter. Ive done krav maga for a little more than a year now but am definatly far more intrested in my bjj and muay thai training than i am my krav maga due to the fact you get tested on a regular basis due to regular sparing and rolling so you can really see where you are inproving and where you need to improve