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Matt_Werk
10/07/2009 8:04pm,
I hear around many circles that a barefist fight will make the tuck and cover used in boxing ineffective. Do boxing gloves make it more effective to do a tuck and cover as opposed to the way most TMAs block? Could I still do a tuck and cover with bare fists.

Cybren
10/07/2009 10:44pm,
No way, if you block a strong kick or punch you might break your forearms better to take it on the chin.


But seriously, keep your hands up and chin down. It's generally more natural and faster to throw punches from there, easier to parry punches coming in, and it gives you some cover if all else fails. Big exaggerated blocks are just gonna get you ktfo.

TrueKarateKid
10/07/2009 11:12pm,
I don't think it's AS effective as with the gloves on.... afterall the gloves cover up more space, and soften the impacts a little more. But it's still more effective than getting smacked in the face.

....I won't touch the TMA blocking. I've found that both have worked for me in the few scraps I have gotten into, but I'm just not going to touch it.

strikistanian
10/07/2009 11:16pm,
You could try covering with your forearms instead of the back of your hand. But that said, if you listen to the poster above and keep your chin down and hands up, there's a fair chance the guy will just hit your forehead and possibly hurt himself. Plus, that area of your skull is pretty thick, so you should be fine.

That said, you should rely more on footwork, headmovement, and parrying than blocking. And if you are going to block/cover, do it with your forearms.

Conde Koma
10/07/2009 11:17pm,
The gloves absorb more impact, but the opponent has bigger gloves too, so it increases the likelihood of hitting. No gloves = smaller fists. Basically, it all equals out.

Torakaka
10/08/2009 12:13am,
If you're talking about shelling up, I'd only ever do that if you were trying to bait something. It's not a great way to defend, gloves or not.

SaintHamish
10/08/2009 12:20am,
No way, if you block a strong kick or punch you might break your forearms better to take it on the chin.




1. - Break your forearms? I guess its possible if Cro-cops throwing some wild high kicks at your head.....

2. - Take it on the chin? This is defiantly the best method if you are in indeed looking to recieve the quick knockout so you wont be awake to feel the effects of the skull crushing until you wake up in intensive care 2 months later shitting through a tube......

Aoart from that....Great advice....

SaintHamish
10/08/2009 12:23am,
If the situation ever arises when you find yourself in a bare knuckle fight dont stand and bang......Close the distance, go to the clinch, front kick them away, shoot for a leg, ANY option avaliable to you then trading wild punches.....

Or just king hit them before they turn around......Quite a popular technique in Oz....

Conde Koma
10/08/2009 12:37am,
king hit (n)
1. The most hardcore, damage-maximising, chronicly solid punch that can be thrown. Send's the aggressor off balance if it doesn't hit the intended target.
2. A Very Very large sized bong of cannabis.

Is this the king hit we're talking about? I think we just call them haymakers over here.

Hesperus
10/08/2009 12:47am,
king hit (n)
1. The most hardcore, damage-maximising, chronicly solid punch that can be thrown. Send's the aggressor off balance if it doesn't hit the intended target.
http://i32.tinypic.com/2ntikc7.gif

FTFY.

Permalost
10/08/2009 12:52am,
king hit (n)
1. The most hardcore, damage-maximising, chronicly solid punch that can be thrown. Send's the aggressor off balance if it doesn't hit the intended target.
2. A Very Very large sized bong of cannabis.

Is this the king hit we're talking about? I think we just call them haymakers over here.

You call a huge bongload a haymaker in your neck of the woods? That's kinda cool.

SaintHamish
10/08/2009 1:05am,
Is this the king hit we're talking about? I think we just call them haymakers over here.

The "king-hit" is generally refered to a heavy punch to the back of someones head or an unexpected punch thrown by someone wanting to do damage before a person is capable of defending themselves....

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Sley
10/08/2009 1:24am,
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I was at that game, only baseball game I ever enjoyed...

Libertad
10/08/2009 3:09am,
I hear around many circles that a barefist fight will make the tuck and cover used in boxing ineffective.Sorry, what?!

I don't box, I have however been training Muay Thai for a while now.
MMA fighters use this tuck and cover in competition,

how different are mixed martial art gloves to a bare fist? Obviously the MMA gloves will not cut as easily, the size however is nearly the same.


Do boxing gloves make it more effective to do a tuck and coverYes, Boxers like any other sport fighter have developed these techniques to be the most effective in their specific rule set.



opposed to the way most TMAs block?Seriously man www.martialartsplanet.com (http://www.martialartsplanet.com) you will feel quite at home here.

Do you mean the block where they take their hands away from their head to intercept the strike?

If this is what you mean by TMA's blocks being more effective on teh streets.
YouTube - 465 Nintaijutsu hook block & strike (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56GbXE9Bp_k)
Please never post on here again.



Could I still do a tuck and cover with bare fists.Yeah, I think you could, it might hurt more...
Luckily I have some concrete you can borrow.

Welcome to bullshido.

Libertad
10/08/2009 3:14am,
P.S. Ignore the part of the video after one minute, sorry I didn't watch it all the way through.

Stupid ninjers.

galois
10/08/2009 11:00am,
The gloves absorb more impact, but the opponent has bigger gloves too, so it increases the likelihood of hitting. No gloves = smaller fists. Basically, it all equals out.

Wait, you think it's easier to hit through someone's boxing glove augmented guard if you are also wearing boxing gloves? Are you serious?