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Cowboy_Dan
9/26/2009 5:47pm,
I'm an old hippie. I'm 56, about 6'2", 190, not in bad shape, not in real good shape, either. Many years ago I hung out with guys who really studied MA; I was too busy staying loaded to put in the time or the energy to really learn to fight. I learned just enough to make me think I could fight.

I've held my own the few times I've had to stand and fight, but I've never really (save once) had to fight for my life, and I think the time is coming that I'm going to need to know a lot more than I do. I also want my wife and children to learn to defend themselves. We won't all always have weapons within reach, so we need to learn to use our heads, hands, and feet.

We live in the Quad Cities; Pat Miletich is a few miles away. I just don't want to go in and get my ass kicked badly enough to make me NOT want to go back. I'm willing to listen so that I can learn, so I'm going to get some other things done and try to check back here later tonight or tomorrow.

Thanks for your help. Have a great day today and a better day tomorrow. Stay safe, and may God bless. I wish you His peace.

Dan
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JudOWNED
9/26/2009 6:01pm,
I think the time is coming that I'm going to need to know a lot more than I do.

Why on earth would you think that? That seems like a very strange thing to say.


We won't all always have weapons within reach...

What are the CCW laws in your state?


Pat Miletich is a few miles away. I just don't want to go in and get my ass kicked badly enough to make me NOT want to go back.

Train Judo.

marcusdbrutus
9/26/2009 6:06pm,
People are buying bullets and guns faster than production rates, hippies want to learn how to throw hands...is there a war coming that I am unaware of?

JudOWNED
9/26/2009 6:09pm,
People are buying bullets and guns because they all think Obama is going to enact strict legislation on them, which he probably will given half the chance. Plus, there is a bit of an ammo shortage due to the Middle East wars. Otherwise, there is no war coming that I know of, which is why I find his comment passing strange.

maofas
9/26/2009 7:05pm,
Judo definitely for your wife & kids. Chances are no one is going to want to "fight" a female, but they will get grabbed and carried off or wrestled down to the floor. As far as kids go, it's a good base art, they can defend themselves in school and not get sued for breaking someone's face, and it lets them 'fight' full-tilt in class without getting punched in the head and messing up their developing brains. Plus it's fun....kids love to wrestle.

Frankly, to me it sounds like you're paranoid and are ripe for being scammed with some bullshit "real self-defense for the streets" type of martial art. Various types of competitive wrestling have been around forever and give you real solid training without trying to sell you something based on the premise that there's a band of rapists or muggers lurking around every corner.

igorsfinger
9/27/2009 1:18pm,
56? Man, you are not going to heal well. Having driven by the Militich place going to work for a couple years, I can only say I am sure you would learn alot, if you know nothing now. If you sense any frat boy/ tough guy BS, I would walk away. Never been in there, but I would think they would be professional. I am also older, rolling around will be rough. If you have been okay so far, what are you planning on getting into?

patfromlogan
9/27/2009 1:38pm,
As an old fart who works out I can tell you that it's still lots of fun throwing and punching, but getting thrown is too much after several falls. But getting hit isn't any more of a problem than it was decades ago. I just tell 'em, as an old guy, I get to hit and throw hard but they have to be careful with me.



And you do sound paranoid, but then again THE END IS COMING!!!!!

thump
9/29/2009 2:34am,
It sounds like your looking for trouble

patfromlogan
9/29/2009 10:18pm,
you are = you're

you possess some and it's yours...

Tom Kagan
9/29/2009 10:46pm,
You fucking dittoheads are pathetic. Don't you morons read?

He lives near PAT GOD DAMN FUCKING MILETICH.

He didn't say "near an MFS affiliate". He said

He lives near PAT GOD DAMN FUCKING MILETICH.

Pat runs a regular commercial gym. He even offers Pilates classes for fucksake.



Every one of you giving a braindead nutriding "do Judo" answer (or did so in other newbietown threads, or was thinking of saying it, or probably will say it in the next fucking newbietown thread) should be drawn and quartered.

Snake Plissken
9/29/2009 10:49pm,
I was going to say:

****, most of the cowboys I know can at least fucking barfight......

maofas
9/29/2009 11:15pm,
Every one of you giving a braindead nutriding "do Judo" answer (or did so in other newbietown threads, or was thinking of saying it, or probably will say it in the next fucking newbietown thread) should be drawn and quartered.

Would you bring a bunch of little kids to Pat Miletech's though? What about your wife who might be a little hesitant to go along with the whole learning how to fight idea? Maybe it's got a great environment for familes too, but I pictured it as an adult fighter-centric gym.

It's not a nutriding thing for me (hey, I started Judo when BJJ was still the art to nutride here, tyvm). I just think it's an amazing sport for kids.

Tom Kagan
9/29/2009 11:23pm,
Would you bring a bunch of little kids to Pat Miletech's though? What about your wife who might be a little hesitant to go along with the whole learning how to fight idea? Maybe it's got a great environment for familes too, but I pictured it as an adult fighter-centric gym.

Your "picture" (or should I say bias) is even more braindead.

Pat's gym is like any other large commercial gym. All skill levels and ages go there. It's merely happenstance it happens to be

PAT GOD DAMN FUCKING MILETICH.

thump
9/30/2009 2:36am,
Fug-I`m not a great typer so relax and pull your panties out your ass.

JudOWNED
9/30/2009 5:59am,
It didn't sound like he was interested in MMA, or in getting punched in the face either, for that matter. Despite the fact that YOU think the chance to train with an MMA legend should never be passed by, it doesn't mean that it is the best recomendation for everyone else.

At any rate, it doesn't matter. This guy appears to be a "one and out" poster. Who knows if he was even serious considering that thinly veiled "the race war is coming" talk he was dropping?

Tom Kagan
9/30/2009 10:59am,
If JudOWNED was cooking steaks at a barbecue, he would ask each party goer how they wanted their steak cooked. He'd carefully record the choices - rare, medium rare, medium, medium well, well, shoe leather...

... Then he'd fire up the coals and cook them all 10 minutes a piece.


Listen:

It's a regular commercial gym.

Regardless of whether this guy is a one off or thinly veiled anything, he wrote he was intimated to go there because

IT'S PAT GOD DAMN FUCKING MILETICH.

My answer isn't so much about training with a legend, but triple underscoring the fact that it's a damn good gym *and* any trepidation over the fact that

IT'S PAT GOD DAMN FUCKING MILETICH

is a stupid reason. What? Do the regular people who go to this gym eat babies or something?


Your answer to the thread? Do Judo.

Do you ever answer anything else to newbies with these questions?