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sambosteve
9/05/2009 12:17pm,
War Wheel and I were discussing san da, and I mentioned this video to him where the russian's added limited G&P to the rules. My assumption was to make the throws more practical in that the thrower has to demonstrate some kind of control...not just throw for points with disregard of where his opponent ends up.

In any event, it is an interesting watch.

YouTube - russian sanda (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4iu0YAxj5A&feature=player_embedded)

sambosteve
9/05/2009 12:22pm,
if anyone can translate, it would be great

The Question
9/05/2009 12:45pm,
Good ****, but why was there some fucking Aikido being demonstrated there?

Also, I'm not quite sure what the limited GnP adds to the game. I'd say it doesn't really add anything.

King Sleepless
9/05/2009 12:55pm,
I wlll try to see if I can get it translated.

sambosteve
9/05/2009 1:05pm,
Good ****, but why was there some fucking Aikido being demonstrated there?

Also, I'm not quite sure what the limited GnP adds to the game. I'd say it doesn't really add anything.

Yeah, the demos were out of place.

Regarding the G&P, i don't understand russian enough to know what was said. But, I think it actually adds to the game in that many san da/san shou guys (like many judo guys too), throw with little regard for where they end up after the takedown...as long as their opponent hits the mat first and they get the points. We have all seen throws in which the attacker ends up in poor position, but still gets points.

I agree that the G&P is not a revolutionary addition, but I do think it makes people look at their takedown a bit differently in that they must continue and establish some kind of control after a throw.

Lebell
9/06/2009 6:51am,
over here we have a healthy respect for the russian san da dudes, they are considered to be the best.

Sang
9/06/2009 7:08am,
That's an awesome rule change, hope it becomes the norm in San Da. It's basically the best way you can improve San Da without compromising the art and making it a MT clone.

This is going to help with San Da fighters transitioning to MMA, their biggest weakness currently is what steve pointed out in the post above.

3moose1
9/06/2009 1:42pm,
SamboStizzle,

You are a russian sambopimp. Why don't you learn russian?

honest_truth
9/06/2009 5:53pm,
This was tourney between the best 5 sanda fighters from Russia VS Belarus

Russia won 4-1, the Belarussian that won was the one who was on the scales.

There were 5 fights. 5 rounds, 2 minutes each, and scored by 5 judges, if a decision isnt made then a 6th round is announced, and if both fighters are equal then they get weighted and the lighter one wins

GnP isnt more than 10 seconds, and if the opponent isnt fighting back then its 5 seconds.

The other talk was about the fighters themselves, that the audience loved the fights and wushu sanda hopes to make the sport popular and available for everyone.

Siniq
9/06/2009 5:59pm,
Looks like overly exited sambo players wearing bigger gloves...

1point2
9/06/2009 10:55pm,
That is the most brilliant rule change I've heard in the last unit of time.

It makes striking + clinch relevant for groundwork without requiring groundwork as a substantial component of training. Wow.

G-Off
9/06/2009 11:01pm,
So, what happens if the guy on the bottom slaps on an triangle and gets the other guy to tap out? If a dude's punching me in the face, I'm gonna choke him if I can...

Still, not a bad ruleset change I guess. It'd probably be more Sanda-like if they did the Shotokan rule of limiting GnP to 1-2 strikes from a standing position to the downed opponent.

sambosteve
9/07/2009 12:50am,
This was tourney between the best 5 sanda fighters from Russia VS Belarus

Russia won 4-1, the Belarussian that won was the one who was on the scales.

There were 5 fights. 5 rounds, 2 minutes each, and scored by 5 judges, if a decision isnt made then a 6th round is announced, and if both fighters are equal then they get weighted and the lighter one wins

GnP isnt more than 10 seconds, and if the opponent isnt fighting back then its 5 seconds.

The other talk was about the fighters themselves, that the audience loved the fights and wushu sanda hopes to make the sport popular and available for everyone.

Thanks for the translation

Hesperus
9/07/2009 5:54am,
So why was there lolkido?

honest_truth
9/07/2009 10:28am,
So why was there lolkido?
It was just demonstrations between fights and rounds, for the publics entertainment.

you gotta admit lolkido and steven seagull movies are an entertaining slapfest & crappling comedy worth watching.

Jack Rusher
9/07/2009 2:26pm,
Great video, great rule change. I hope other san da organizations adopt it.