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Mr. Fong
5/21/2009 5:28pm,
I have two friends who are very interested in taking martial arts. At first they wanted to do Tae kwan do, but then I told them that Tae kwan do is a big NO-NO. I told them to try out kickboxing, Muay Thai, Kyukushin, western boxing and then I told them there is alot more ( I couldnt think of anything off the top of my tounge), They wanted to do a grappling based martial art also.

I told them about Judo, Brazilian jiu jitsu, SAMBO, and wrestling.

My two friends are super new to the martial arts....and when I say new they are the guys you see walking by saying "me and my friends do UFC"
they live around Marion, Indiana and are looking for MAS around that area....or other cities near marion would help

what advice should I give them? I posted this here to help them look for MAS

Mr. Fong
5/21/2009 6:08pm,
Can somebody post? please?....it will be quite helpfull =)

Snake Plissken
5/21/2009 6:11pm,
First off, welcome.
Second, have you invited them to your club yet to try out your training and see if they like it?

Vorpal
5/21/2009 7:05pm,
That might be hard if the OP is actually in Canada like it says under "location".

Mr. Fong
5/21/2009 7:30pm,
That might be hard if the OP is actually in Canada like it says under "location".

The location is in Marion, Indiana
around that area will be good, please help meh? :guitar:

slideyfoot
5/22/2009 7:19am,
what advice should I give them? I posted this here to help them look for MAS

First of all, I'd recommend you take a look at the FAQ (http://web.archive.org/web/20071213111036/http://www.bullshido.com/articles/finding-a-good-martial-arts-school.html) on finding a good martial arts school. In general, signs to look for are a competitive record, regular heavy contact sparring and 'aliveness' (if you're unfamiliar with the term, Matt Thornton has a long article (http://aliveness101.blogspot.com/2005/07/why-aliveness.html) on the topic describing what it is and why it's important: he is the man most associated with popularising the concept).

If your interest is mainly in striking, the safest option if you want decent training is muay thai (which you'll also see as 'thai boxing'), along with martial arts like boxing and kyokushin karate. That's not to say there aren't good schools within other striking styles, but they tend to vary widely in quality.

If you're more interested in grappling, then BJJ would be an excellent choice, as the strong competitive element and ability-based ranking system generally results in high quality training. A cheaper option is judo, which is also much easier to find - the two styles are closely related, the main difference being that judo normally focuses on throws whereas BJJ is mostly about the ground. For more on judo, read the Bullshido.com article (http://www.bullshido.com/articles/judo-6.html) - there is an article on BJJ (http://www.bullshido.com/articles/brazilian-jiu-jitsu-style-information-without-the-bs-2.html) too (you could also check my BJJ Beginner FAQ (http://slideyfoot.blogspot.com/2006/10/bjj-beginner-faq.html)). SAMBO is another good choice, but even harder to find than BJJ. Then there's wrestling, which is also great training for grappling.

Alternately, you could combine grappling and striking by cross-training in several arts, or at an MMA gym (though technically 'MMA' is a ruleset rather than a specific style). Examples of well known MMA gyms would be Team Quest (http://www.tqfc.com/) and Miletich Fighting Systems (http://miletichnewyork.com/).

Finally, you could try having a look through the dojo reviews (http://www.bullshido.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=83) section, which might yield something more specific to your area. Alternately, you could try a Google site search, either off the Google toolbar, or by typing site:www.bullshido.net into Google, followed by the area (i.e., site:www.bullshido.net london).

There are also several school databases you could try. For example, for BJJ:

TrainJiuJitsu.com (http://www.trainjiujitsu.com/bjj/)
Gym Database (http://www.gymdb.com/) (BJJ, MMA etc)
UK Club Map (http://slideyfoot.blogspot.com/2000/01/uk-bjj-club-list.html)

As you mentioned they are keen on grappling, you could also point them towards the usual threads:


Training, Stagnation and Tapping (http://www.bullshido.net/forums/showpost.php?p=974042)

Maximizing what you get out of rolling (http://www.bullshido.net/forums/showpost.php?p=1253088)

Protecting Yourself During Sparring (http://www.bullshido.net/forums/showthread.php?p=1234198)

BJJ Rolling Guide for Beginners (http://www.sherdog.net/forums/f12/bjj-rolling-guide-beginners-926678/#post29020042)
Grappling Basic Principles (http://www.bullshido.net/forums/showthread.php?t=20609)

Advice for Noobs (http://www.bullshido.net/forums/showpost.php?p=1776425&postcount=1)

10 Quick Tips for White Belts (http://www.aesopian.com/353/10-quick-tips-for-white-belts/)

First Day Lesson (http://www.bullshido.net/forums/showpost.php?p=1232603)

Fundamental 5 (http://www.bullshido.net/forums/showpost.php?p=1019474)

Obvious Epiphanies (http://www.bullshido.net/forums/showthread.php?t=62601)

And the following articles:

Starting BJJ Classes (http://www.grapplearts.com/Starting-BJJ-Classes.htm)
Nuggets of Advice (http://www.aesopian.com/127/nuggets-of-advice/)
Beginning BJJ (http://www.beginningbjj.com/index.html) (free e-course and e-book)

Mr. Fong
5/22/2009 1:53pm,
Much appreciated