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bigstu31s
5/18/2009 4:21am,
I have a friend who has no Martial arts experience but due to the fact that he has recently joined the Police he has decided he wants to start something.
He found a MMA gym in Wimbledon (UK) and took his first lesson last week. What do you guys think about doing MMA as your first MA experience. Is it too much to learn?
Would he be better doing BJJ and then maybe 1-2 years down the road after getting some decent ground skills doing some MMA or Kick boxing?

Steve
5/18/2009 4:33am,
As a police officer, I would hope he would be more concerned about when and how to use his side arm. MMA isn't something that equates in terms of law enforcement.

bigstu31s
5/18/2009 4:57am,
Sorry I should have said he is a UK Police Officer and they don't carry guns. When shot at the Police over here politely ask the criminals not to do it again and if they continue they can always threaten them with their truncheon.

PointyShinyBurn
5/18/2009 6:21am,
What do you guys think about doing MMA as your first MA experience. Is it too much to learn?

Would he be better doing BJJ and then maybe 1-2 years down the road after getting some decent ground skills doing some MMA or Kick boxing?
Which gym is it? Lots of places train an integrated skill-set from the get go and produce quality fighters. If he doesn't find the classes overwhelming, no reason he shouldn't continue to train there.

Kambei Shimada
5/18/2009 6:25am,
What MMA gym In Wimbledon?

Do you mean Ray Stephens BJJ?

It totally depends on the gym. Where i currently train, (Londonshootfighters) we get ALOT of guys who come to the class try it out once, barely make it though the class and never come back. Fitness tends to be the biggest issue.

Like pointy said if he's not totally overwhelmed by the classes there's no reason to quit, he's only going to improve with time.

Goju - Joe
5/18/2009 6:37am,
personally I think it's better to get a good base in one range of fighting first either grappling or striking and then add the second one, or it's going to be too higgily-piggily also as a police officer I would assume BJJ/Wrestling would be more germane to what he's doing

Teh El Macho
5/18/2009 6:53am,
Many jits places - ie the Gracies, some SBGi affiliates and I think the Machados - have programs specifically designed for LEOs (you can't register unless you are actually a LEO). If that sort of thing is also available at UK jits clubs, that might be something he would be interesting for him.

bigstu31s
5/18/2009 10:27am,
I can't remember the name of the MMA gym in Wimbledon but I know its not Ray Stevens. Apparently its right next door to Wimbledon Station.
He has taken 1 lesson and he said he was blowing out of his ass at the end of it despite the fact that he runs Marathons but he's a tough guy so this won't put him off. I'm just wondering wether learning a bit of everything will make him a jack of all trades and a master of none. I mean if he is only training once or twice a week it's gonna be hard to learn all the ranges and be good at them. Personally for a Police officer I think Judo would be better but I thought i'd see what you guys think. The reason I am asking is that he has asked me to take a lesson with him so I can let him know what I think. I got him interested in the UFC and MMA and I think he wants to become the next GSP lol.

Coach Josh
5/18/2009 11:05am,
Judo is his best beat as an officer. Butt flopping to handcuffing is tough to pull off :). MMA training is really a great workout but not really ideal for a beginning student.

We advise all our MMA wannbes to go to the beginners classes and learn stuff before coming to the MMA "class". We don't teach MMA we train for MMA fights and that time is not for the faint at heart or the beginner. Most of the time they never come back. Hell one guy got beat by the jump rope at the beginning of the class the other day.

bigstu31s
5/19/2009 8:52am,
Thanks for the advice Coach Josh

Kintanon
5/19/2009 9:02am,
Psha! Butt Flop -> X-guard -> sweep -> take the back -> handcuffs. Totally STREET!!
It works for Marcelo Garcia!

Coach Josh
5/19/2009 9:07am,
Psha! Butt Flop -> X-guard -> sweep -> take the back -> handcuffs. Totally STREET!!
It works for Marcelo Garcia!


If I ever say a cop do that I would give him $100 on the spot just for the coolness factor.

Totemicist
5/19/2009 9:24am,
Is this the place he attended?

The Holistic Fitness Kickboxing and Sport Martial Arts Academy
http://www.holistic-fitness.net


Because if so this is not where I would personally choose train MMA for 2 reasons:
1)Other gyms within the London area producing competing MMA fighters which is something that they do not seem to have done.
2)Some of the instructors seem to have martial arts qualifications that seem a little strange (one has a Yellow belt in BJJ).

To answer your original question I personally trained MMA for about a year with very little previous martial arts experience, at times I felt as if I was the only person training without some decent base in either stricking or grappling, however I did progress in both my stricking and grappling over the course of the year.

When this club closed down I decided that I would like to get some base in grappling so I am now studying BJJ.

I hope that this helps.

mike321
5/19/2009 11:08pm,
I have a friend who has no Martial arts experience but due to the fact that he has recently joined the Police he has decided he wants to start something.
He found a MMA gym in Wimbledon (UK) and took his first lesson last week. What do you guys think about doing MMA as your first MA experience. Is it too much to learn?
Would he be better doing BJJ and then maybe 1-2 years down the road after getting some decent ground skills doing some MMA or Kick boxing?

OP, You have got some good answers from good people but based on hard evidence I don't think anyone knows the answer yet. Pure MMA based training for noobs is a new phenomena. I don't think we will know if it's a viable option until we see some guys who grew up training MMA from the start make a shot at competition. If ten years from now specialists who convert to MMA still dominate then the answer is No, if we start seeing MMA trained fighters win , then Yes. As for your friend, don't think it will hurt, but there are other options.

Mr. Fong
5/21/2009 1:16pm,
I suggest to him taking Brazilian Jiu jitsu or SAMBO or judo before taking MMA
just like coach josh said, MMA is more of a rule set. If I were just starting Martial arts I would do a striking art then grappling art

edtang
5/21/2009 1:19pm,
I do know that when I first started training at my current school, I tried doing both the kickboxing and BJJ a few months in, and that was too much to try to learn at once. Once I stopped the kickboxing I found I was getting a lot more out of my grappling classes.