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E-Van
5/12/2009 5:03pm,
I sat this week doing alot of thinking about where I stand in my chosen martial art. Having ringworm can do that to a man. As I sat and thought about how far I have come in the past 8 months since joining my new school I thought to myself, 'my god... I realy suck'.

I spoke to my friend who also does martial arts (albeit not BJJ) and kind of tossed around how I was feeling with him. I though that maybe it was because I was such a natural at Karate and Muay Thai, maybe BJJ just has a larger learning curve? I remember as a kid taking up TKD and taking first place in a national tourney after 6 months of training. Perhaps this feeling of there being a larger learning curve is normal among most white belts of BJJ?

Then my friend dropped the hammer on me. "Perhaps your just getting older and your not picking up new physical skills like you used to". Whoa. Hold on there budy."Im only 27 man Im still a young buck! Right?" This cant be it. Obviously I have been repeating a mantra of "More classes, better diet, harder more determined work outs" but its getting harder to see improvement. Its a new school and so there arent any blue or purple belts to even ask about my improvement. I feel like I was getting tooled when I started.. and getting tooled now. I have read this over in over in most the threads here, "get ready to tap out.. and tap out and tap out" And I am fine with that, but I would like to be able to compete at some point and all I seem to do is tap out, even to other white belts.

One of my friends says Im not aggresive enough. Im 6'2 220 pounds. I hate smothering people with my weight, instead I will pull guard to work off my back. I even asked my instructor at one point if there was a way to transition from S mount to a arm bar without dropping so much of my weight on my oppenent. The second I said it I knew how stupid it sounded but I realy dont want to injure anyone. I was never like that in Karate or MT. I dont know what happened. Its not like I got married recently.

:XXarcade:

1point2
5/12/2009 6:07pm,
I see two possible problems that I will mention only because it's YMAS.

A) Not having blues and purples to roll with is extremely limiting and could be hindering your progress significantly; is there a way to travel to get in some rolling with higher belts at least occasionally (once a month maybe)?

B) It sounds like you need to use your weight more. It's not a sin to be big. You could be avoiding good technique by focusing overmuch on not using your weight.

Vorpal
5/12/2009 6:32pm,
I'm slightly bigger (6'3" 238). Definately use your weight more. You wouldn't tell someone not to use their speed, dexterity or adeptness. Your size and weight is an attribute that will be with you whenever you roll (unlike strength which can fade with fatigue), use that ****. Don't be so sure you're not progressing either. Roll with someone outside of your class (preferably someone who does primarily stand up) and see how it works out. Chances are you will be calm and relaxed and able to pass and set up subs. Stick with it, progress usually comes in a series of gains, plateaus and setbacks. It's easy as Hell to stay the coure when you're making solid gains but the people who really stand out are the ones that keep going no matter what. Good luck

Kintanon
5/12/2009 7:01pm,
You know I'm a scrawny little guy, one of my favorite rolling partners is a blue belt about your size. He uses his weight like a fucking mountain.
You aren't going to crush anyone to death. I use my superior speed and flexibility, he uses his strength and weight. You need to be doing the same thing. From top AND bottom. If you are pulling guard you need to be getting grips that make your opponent carry your weight. Force them to hold you up and fight against gravity and you. That will open up more opportunities.

But really, I thought I was totally stagnant for at least a year before I went to a class with some guys who had been going for 3-4 months and was just tooling them.
Remember, the guys you roll with not only get better, but they learn your style. They learn the things you like to work for. Start mixing your game up. Get on top and move to north south and just drop your stomach on them and attack an arm.
You won't kill any of us, and frankly I think it's a bitch move to hold back against the smaller people as if we're too delicate for you. >:)

chingythingy
5/12/2009 7:19pm,
There are only two things that motivate you in BJJ.

1) Winning
2) Losing

As long as you are in control and determine how both of those things will motivate you to move in a positive direction, it's all good.

v1y
5/12/2009 9:46pm,
A) Not having blues and purples to roll with is extremely limiting and could be hindering your progress significantly; is there a way to travel to get in some rolling with higher belts at least occasionally (once a month maybe)?
This.

You need to be rolling with people of all skill levels, but rolling with people better than you is most important. You need to be badly punished for mistakes you make every time you make them.

Tom Kagan
5/12/2009 10:17pm,
Sheesh. Flip your dilema around: Who the **** are you to blow smoke up your training partner's asses? They paid money to learn how to deal with people your size. Your classmates should be pissed at you for wasting their money. Use your weight until your teacher tells you to stop.

Kentucky Fried Chokin
5/12/2009 10:23pm,
27? Give up now grandpa. Taking up a hobby like collecting stamps while you keep those kids off your lawn, because the good years have passed your old ass by!

jnp
5/12/2009 10:43pm,
Remember, the guys you roll with not only get better, but they learn your style. They learn the things you like to work for. Start mixing your game up. Get on top and move to north south and just drop your stomach on them and attack an arm.
Kintanon is on a roll lately. Here's the deal, everyone you roll with on a regular basis, not only learns your style, but they are also improving at a concurrent rate. It's hard to measure progress in that environment. As long as your instructor is teaching you good technique, you are all getting better. You just can't see it.

Like Kintanon said, mix it up. Stop relying on your tried and true techniques. Branch out. It will be painful as everyone crushes your initial attempts at adopting new techniques, but it will pay off in the long run, especially if you drill it before you try to pull it off in sparring.

You are in a valley. Stick with it and you will be climbing a peak before you know it. Then, later, you will hit another valley. Rinse and repeat ad infinitum.

Munacra
5/12/2009 11:06pm,
My ruts never last long because I'm always competing. Competing takes you out of ruts real quick. How often do you compete?

ChickenBeakFist
5/12/2009 11:36pm,
Nine times thrown, ten times rise

Yojimbo1717
5/13/2009 12:21am,
Van, wtf?

I'll train with you - you're not far away at all and I have mats at my house (and all sorts of physical conditioning equipment if that floats your boat).

...oh, and what Kintanon and jnp said.

E-Van
5/13/2009 9:34am,
I talked to my instructor about how I was feeling today and he laughed at me. He says I have progressed so much its not even funny. The only problem is that I was absolutely terrible when I started. Hah! Thanks coach! He says he has seen it alot with people who were strikers for so long transitioning into a ground game. He says every single white belt not named BJ Penn goes through a period like I am and that he isnt worried because he knows how dedicated I am.

Thanks for all the advice everyone. Kintannon, I think I just had it so ingrained into my head to use technique before I use strength that I also added 'using my weight' into that eqaution and that is something I am going to work on tonight.

Yojimbo, Im so glad you are still here. I still have your cell phone number and would love to set something up. Ill hit you up later.

As a funny side note, last night one of the younger black belts in the karate school at our location locked his keys in his car. He was parked next to me while my instructor and I were talking. The kid and his friends whent inside the building to ask for help. I told my instructor that I had AAA. He smiles at me and says, I dont need AAA, Im Mexican.

He had a long wire in his trunk and we were able to jimmy the door enough to shove the wire through... hook the kids keys.. and give them to him when he came back. You should have seen the kids face as my instructor handed him his keys while his doors were still locked!

BJJ FOR THE WIN! lol

NJM
5/13/2009 9:40am,
He smiles at me and says, I dont need AAA, Im Mexican.
Should be added to the bullshido great quote list.

IMightBeWrong
5/13/2009 10:04am,
I sat this week doing alot of thinking about where I stand in my chosen martial art. Having ringworm can do that to a man. As I sat and thought about how far I have come in the past 8 months since joining my new school I thought to myself, 'my god... I realy suck'.

I spoke to my friend who also does martial arts (albeit not BJJ) and kind of tossed around how I was feeling with him. I though that maybe it was because I was such a natural at Karate and Muay Thai, maybe BJJ just has a larger learning curve? I remember as a kid taking up TKD and taking first place in a national tourney after 6 months of training. Perhaps this feeling of there being a larger learning curve is normal among most white belts of BJJ?

Then my friend dropped the hammer on me. "Perhaps your just getting older and your not picking up new physical skills like you used to". Whoa. Hold on there budy."Im only 27 man Im still a young buck! Right?" This cant be it. Obviously I have been repeating a mantra of "More classes, better diet, harder more determined work outs" but its getting harder to see improvement. Its a new school and so there arent any blue or purple belts to even ask about my improvement. I feel like I was getting tooled when I started.. and getting tooled now. I have read this over in over in most the threads here, "get ready to tap out.. and tap out and tap out" And I am fine with that, but I would like to be able to compete at some point and all I seem to do is tap out, even to other white belts.

One of my friends says Im not aggresive enough. Im 6'2 220 pounds. I hate smothering people with my weight, instead I will pull guard to work off my back. I even asked my instructor at one point if there was a way to transition from S mount to a arm bar without dropping so much of my weight on my oppenent. The second I said it I knew how stupid it sounded but I realy dont want to injure anyone. I was never like that in Karate or MT. I dont know what happened. Its not like I got married recently.

:XXarcade:

Are you a woman? If not, stop sharing your damn feelings and start sweating or you're not going to get any better. Everybody has their off times during training. Just get through it, and while you're at it maybe try adding or changing something in your routine. Maybe some more Omega 3s. They help balance you out so your girly little "feelings" are less likely to come back and you'll just feel better about yourself while your mind functions more the way it should.

IMightBeWrong
5/13/2009 10:06am,
By the way, I forgot to mention that I'm the opposite when it comes to my weight. I've got some extra baggage that I'm sure I could live without, but I don't mind keeping it to use the extra weight to my advantage. I'm learning to fight, not model.